Ford Ranger and Mazda BT-50 recalled due to brake faults

[ol' boy]

May affect a few here

[allover]

ie, they made the break hoses too short

[lsemmens]

ie, they made the break hoses too short

Actually they cause the brake hoses to break [/pedant]

[allover]

Actually they cause the brake hoses to break [/pedant]

Thats what i said didn't I May affect me as i have had a 2"lift as well and off to Robe and the sand dunes this week end, looks like i will have to use the gears

[ol' boy]

off to Robe and the sand dunes this week end, looks like i will have to use the gears

Great stuff mate
Did Beachport to Robe over summer, she is plenty soft the sand there, pick your tides
Stop at the Portland dunes for a giggle also

They took the Ford Ranger to Portland to test/set up the Sand setting. They got bogged heaps.

[allover]

Yep, on the list, hope this car is not like the Nissan Patrol saga that i and a few others went thru re the motors like Leroy McRanger

[allover]

Thanks O/B, this is my test run prior to Arhemland etc so is going to be full load, ie 60 litres of diesel and another 60 litres of water plus every thing, so think i will be getting towed out a few times

[VroomVroom]

like every other issue ( like gearbox and engine failures ), Ford cant blame the owners for this one !!

Bunch of idiots - i walked into the Ford stealership trying to test drive an Everest . while there i overheard an argument between a customer and the service manager over money. Ford were trying to charge him a $90 fee for diagnosing an issue with his brand new Ranger gearbox , which failed and is what the car was towed in for. absolute assholes.

[Philquad]

my sons bt50 is on the list too
50g odd, had the powertrain light on last week
app the dpf hadn't burnt off properly
now its got another light on, pos
shoulda kept his colarado

[ol' boy]

my sons bt50 is on the list too
50g odd, had the powertrain light on last week
app the dpf hadn't burnt off properly
now its got another light on, pos
shoulda kept his colarado

That is very disappointing for a newish vehicle

[allover]

my sons bt50 is on the list too
50g odd, had the powertrain light on last week
app the dpf hadn't burnt off properly
now its got another light on, pos
shoulda kept his colarado

Answer, remove exhaust, small grinder, cut flap opening in top of pdf, obtain screw driver and hammer, chisel out the ceramic infill, reweld flap, re install exhaust, go to Rangermods site, redo ecu and
Instant power boost and economy, but don't get caught

[Philquad]

Answer, remove exhaust, small grinder, cut flap opening in top of pdf, obtain screw driver and hammer, chisel out the ceramic infill, reweld flap, re install exhaust, go to Rangermods site, redo ecu and
Instant power boost and economy, but don't get caught

are you saying to modify the emission system
when you read about the dpf (diesel particle filter)
its a common drama
& very costly if it needs replacing
i like your idea.

[allover]

I haven't done it (yet) due to warranty, but in Britain, so much so that they had a crack down, think Ford Transit van, believe they are very similar engines. So you dealer says your DPF is going to cost $4000 to replace it makes removing the DFF for several hundred look cheap plus you get advantage of economy and power, also reduced heat. If you want it done you will have to back yard it as there is a $10,000 fine
Some one posted that they had it done when still in warranty but dealership could not pick it up, not too sure about that but if you want more info i will know after this week end all the vivid details

[allover]

Phil, worth a try?

Hi guys. I’ve just bought a 19 ‘loaded’ 3.2. My experience with trucks and DPF is to use CEM product FTC Decarbonizer. It burns the fuel cleaner at lower temps and keeps the DPF cleaner. I have started using it in my wife’s Discovery Sport as it had been a demo and the DPF Had to be replaced after 3500kms.
My DD15 Western Star has never run better since using this in the fuel. No more mad burn offs and fault codes. I run 6 trucks and the CEM products are worth every cent. I put their oil additive in every vehicle I own. Do your own research you will be impressed and you will save money!

[george65]

My experience with trucks and DPF is to use CEM product FTC Decarbonizer. It burns the fuel cleaner at lower temps and keeps the DPF cleaner.

Do your own research you will be impressed and you will save money!

I agree, doing some research WILL save you money!
As I suspected to the point of pretty much knowing through researching all of these Miracle's in a bottle, They are always Naptha based. This one is no different.
As always, there are some " Fillers" included to pas the stuff out, give it a differnt look or smell but the thing that doing all the work and you are paying mightily for as a miracle in a bottle is always Naptha.
Looking up the formulation, for this product, sure enough, it's Naptha with some alcohol ( probably for dissolving water) and some.... Perfume.

ALL of these additives I have come across be they for Fuel or oil are all Naphtha with a few additives. Often the additive is Kero, Diesel, alcohol or oil.
Naptha is a very basic solvent and can be had at bunnings for about $8 litre last time I bought some. It's also called Shellite, Lighter fluid, white fuel, camping gas, Coleman gas, Solvent 150 and a bunch of other things to make the chemical solvent equivalent of water sound like something worth about 20X more as a product than it is as it's base chemical.

I have added this stuff in clagged diesels and it does a good job of cleaning fuel systems and helping to burn off carbon although nothing does that near as well as water injection which I wouldn't run a diesel without. I have had my own WI setup on all my Diesels ( even stationary motors ) for 10+ years and it allows you to do things with them you simply couldn't do otherwise. I just use cheap pumps and nozzles or make my own. No need to have micro fine sprays like the people peddling kits tell you, Just break up the stream and the airflow and heat will do the rest.

As for burning the fuel Cleaner at lower temps, Meh. Physically very possible, practically HIGHLY unlikely.
It will burn cleaner because it is a much lighter fuel. It may burn at lower temps because in a diesel it would light off at lower compression ratios for the same reason.
I Highly doubt in the recommended dosage it would be significant enough to have any effect. I have run veg oil in my diesels for years and add 5-15% pertol for the same effect. The petrol Lights off sooner in a diesel effectively advancing the timing and therefore giving a longer burn time where as Veg oil lights of at least 10% later in the cycle. The petrol lighting off first helps the Veg to burn faster and therefore more completely.

Naptha would do the exact same thing but in concentrations under 2%, I would have VERY strong reservations of it's ability to change the point at which the fuel lights off to any worth while amount. From a manufacturers POV, I would also think they would be taking a HUGE risk with a product that advanced the effective timing on diesel Combustion. Might be OK on electronic engines where the computer can sense nailing and pull the timing back accordingly but on a mechanical pump that was dialled up a bit in the first place, could cause problems.
Pretty much all these Miracle in a bottle products rely more on faith and belief than anything else because although the ingredient in the product can certainly work, The often less than 100Ml you get of it in a bottle for $15+ bucks is really not going to do a whole lot. If you use it regularly, there may just be enough to dissolve some fallout from the fuel But I'd think that would be very marginal at best. Throw a Litre of the stuff in and different story.


Again, ALL of these products I have looked at and I have looked at all I can find, ALWAYS use Naptha. The ones that don't list it as a proprietary name to hide the fact it's still NAPTHA. It is a good solvent and used to clean everything from printing presses to beyond. I usualy just get a bottle and throw it in a tank of fuel. If there is water in the tank or crap in the fuel system or injectors are not clean you may get some white smoke as evidence it's doing what you want.

I have also thrown some in the oil before a change. It won't last long before it Boils off so no use putting it in and driving miles. It will also take a while to clean out heavy sludge. You can't expect anything to remove in 5 Min what took years to accumulate but regular oil changes and throwing this stuff in 20-50KM before you change the oil will help remove a lot of crap. ALWAYS change the oil filter though because one it is full it goes into by pass and circulates that crap through the engine... The bearing and other friction surfaces.


Naptha can be bought in anything from 1L at Bunnings to 200L Drums at chemical suppliers.
Again, research can save you money as prices on Naptha can vary greatly from supplier to supplier.

[ol' boy]

Just speaking to a friend whom owns a Ford Ranger and is also part of the development team that designed them
Coming home from work his Ranger stopped with some horrible noises

Flexplate broke, once back home, he took an inspection cover off and the Crank Angle sensor fell out.... FFS.

[lsemmens]

As an aside, I know nothing of DPFs so this may not be possible, and may also be detectable, can you just remove the guts of the DPF leaving the shell in place? I remember removing the baffles in the exhaust of old DT175 way back in the day for a performance boost.

[allover]

As an aside, I know nothing of DPFs so this may not be possible, and may also be detectable, can you just remove the guts of the DPF leaving the shell in place? I remember removing the baffles in the exhaust of old DT175 way back in the day for a performance boost.

Only tell tale signs are there is a little black smoke out of the exhaust, not detectable
The ECU (computer) has to be programmed to make adjustments, due to the ECU running "burn off programs", that is where you run into difficulties
Some claim a chip will resolve the problem but it seems a ECU reset is the go, but if you take it to a dealer, he may automatically reset the ECU and you will then have to go get the ECU unit reset again for the DPF.
Did ask the question for you last week end but the Ranger involved preceded the DPF
He is running at 8 litres per 100km, me 13.3 Litres
Don't know which state you are in but you may have to privately enquire to find some one to do the reset

[lsemmens]

Did ask the question for you last week end but the Ranger involved preceded the DPF

Not guilty your honour. I just commented (not seriously BTW

ie, they made the break hoses too short

Actually they cause the brake hoses to break [/pedant]

. FWIW I am in SA.

[allover]

Not guilty your honour. I just commented (not seriously BTW . FWIW I am in SA.

Sorry asked on behalf of Philquad