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    What's wrong with dobbing in bigots?
    We have become the great country of dobbers anyhow, at least that is what our Gov wants us to be.
    Ooooh... I just saw somebody using cash, must be a criminal, call the hotline.

    As for Muslim hatred, I know it is a national sport and we all don't want to be racists so bigotry is fine.

    I hate all religions but for some reason I don't go around insulting all the people who follow them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nomeat View Post
    What's wrong with dobbing in bigots?
    We have become the great country of dobbers anyhow, at least that is what our Gov wants us to be.
    Ooooh... I just saw somebody using cash, must be a criminal, call the hotline.

    As for Muslim hatred, I know it is a national sport and we all don't want to be racists so bigotry is fine.

    I hate all religions but for some reason I don't go around insulting all the people who follow them.
    I don't either.

    But murder in cafes and holding severed heads seems to be largely attributed to one faith currently. NOTHING to do with racism or bigotry, EVERYTHING to do with delusion and culture.
    The fact that there's a highway to hell and a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic flow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enf View Post
    I don't either.

    But murder in cafes and holding severed heads seems to be largely attributed to one faith currently. NOTHING to do with racism or bigotry, EVERYTHING to do with delusion and culture.

    The invasion of Iraq was done "In the name of (a Christian) God" that consequently led to 1 million deaths and the uprising of that terror group you mention.

    I can not agree that one religion is any better than the other and that is why I will have nothing to do with any of them.
    However I refuse to generalise that all followers of a faith are murderers.
    I will always blame the individuals who are delusional, child rapists or terrorists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nomeat View Post
    The invasion of Iraq was done "In the name of (a Christian) God" that consequently led to 1 million deaths and the uprising of that terror group you mention.
    Oh crap.....IF there was a religion involved it was OIL....jeez nomeat....

    Quote Originally Posted by nomeat View Post
    I can not agree that one religion is any better than the other and that is why I will have nothing to do with any of them.
    However I refuse to generalise that all followers of a faith are murderers.
    I will always blame the individuals who are delusional, child rapists or terrorists.
    No religion is better than another, sure....but primarily only ONE religion indulges in murder in cafes and holding severed heads. Seems to me only bigotry would prevent someone from stubbornly refusing to see the obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enf View Post
    Oh crap.....IF there was a religion involved it was OIL....jeez nomeat....
    Believe it or not, that is up to you:


    Yes, the Hypocrisy is screaming here. Something I find typical of many religious 'nutters'.

    Calling them nutters probably makes me a bigot but I am still referring to individuals.
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    At my last place a Lebbo and a Punjab pair of Muslims built a Duplex next door.

    They ignored pretty much every regulation and had water and silt running down the street, regularly worked after hours, (Like literally doing Concrete pours at midnight) constantly had vehicles parked on the footpath and so it went. Council rangers were there EVERY day and issued over $35K worth of fines in 9 months. They also got hit about $24K for illegally Disconnecting the gas, and other numerous fines from the RTA for blocking the roads without permits.

    Myself and other neighbours complained often but we didn't even have to in Business hours. It was on a main road and the rangers would see things as they drove past from one job to another and park round the corner, come take pics and issue the fines. One ranger told me he had issued up to 4 Different fines in one day and could not believe they just kept doing the exact same things day in, day out.

    The owner would CONSTANTLY complain to the rangers when he saw them and say to them " why are you doing this to me? It's because I'm black isn't it" I remember hearing an exchange between one ranger and the guy one night when he said this. The ranger, an ex cop, didn't take kindly to the BS and told the guy up close and personal, " It's because I'm out here every damn day booking you for the same things like concrete running down the street and working after 9 PM and you are too damn stupid to stop doing it. "

    Later on when the power co checked the place and found major flaws, their guys were accused of being racists and so were the higher inspectors who also came out after the racist allegations and met with the sparky who did the job.

    My wife whom works for the council said the guy had written to the the GM claiming the fines were because of the racist rangers. One nice guy I spoke to many times who was also a Punjab said he had spoken to the owner in his own language and explained the problems many times and couldn't believe he just kept doing the same things. I remember him saying, " He must be a crazy guy or thinks he's beter than everyone else and won't have to pay" .

    The request to have the fines Dismissed was of course rejected . The guy then requested a meeting with the GM and brought some " Advisor" with him whom was part of a local Muslim Business association also made a great fuss about racism and threatened to take the matter further. The council basically said " Go ahead" and alerted some state run ethics department who investigated and also backed the council. The council had photos of everything and the guy was living in the house illegally without an OC because they had simply put plans in for one thing and built something completely Different. They had put the plans in for what they ultimately built and when they were rejected several times, put in plans that were approved and then built the first plans and tried to have the huge differences passed as " Amendments" which were well rejected.

    They guy came into council many times and whenever anything didn't go the way he wanted because it was against the regulations, he would cry racism ( and reference being Muslim) and demand to see someone in charge and then write more letters of complaint when that failed. He accused the Samoan security guards of being racists as well when they escorted him off the premises a number of times till he was banned from coming into the council at all. Samoans bring to mind many things but racists is certainly not one of them.

    The Racism claim is the first thing a lot of these people turn to now because they think the second they mention it, everyone will cower down and let them get away with anything they want. Sometimes it works, not always, but I guess they figure they have nothing to loose and it's worth a shot.

    4 years later the Punjab is still living in the place and it's still not got an OC but council won't do a thing about it. Maybe the racism accusation worked somewhat. The place is a duplex with the land being owned by the Punjab and the building paid for by the well known lebbo Drug dealer. Their arrangement was for the Punjab to live in one and the lebbo to sell the other supposedly for a profit.
    Because the Certifier cannot give the place an OC because the whole thing has come to the attention of a lot of different state departments over the endless complaints and them bringing attention to themselves with Illegal work in the street necessitating attendance of emergency services and a main arterial road closure, the other place that was supposed to be the Lebbos investment payoff is just sitting there. He was using it to do a LOT of drug deals so I guess it had some usefulness.
    It cannot be sold without an OC and certificate of completion. That can't be issued because the Building does not comply in about 10 major ways.

    Lebbo is out about $1m but it's all because of the Racist Council and nothing to do with the fact they flouted the laws and regulations every single day of construction and built something they knew would never be approved and probably never will be unless it is significantly demolished.
    Having seen the way it was built, I'd say it will demolish itself inside of 10 years... like a lot of other places built by owners of a similar outlook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomeat View Post
    Believe it or not, that is up to you:


    Yes, the Hypocrisy is screaming here. Something I find typical of many religious 'nutters'.

    Calling them nutters probably makes me a bigot but I am still referring to individuals.
    Sorry, nomeat, but the whole "I did it for God" BS falls flat on its face in the last sentence of the Guardian article:

    Would the United States and other free nations be more safe, or less safe, with Zarqawi and Bin Laden in control of Iraq, its people, and its resources?" Mr Bush asked.
    You can forget God....he/she had bugger all to do with it.

    The entire Middle East sh#t-fight from go to whoa is about one thing and one thing only......OIL.

    Each country that has had the christian gods' beneficence bestowed upon it by the U.S. (and its gaggle of the willing) has been just another small part of a very big overall picture.

    And that picture has been solely about the security of access of the U.S. of A. to the vast oil reserves of the area.

    There have been a multitude of sub-plots, like attempting to deny Russian gas pipelines access to Europe, and the like........but insofar as the Wests' adventures in the Middle East are concerned, poor old God is nothing more than a convenient and morally assuaging fall guy.

    Every shot that has ever been fired in the Middle East has been about oil/gas and geopolitical influence and containment.

    A teaspoon of God just helps the medicine go down easier for the proletariat........and it sounds a whole lot better than "We bombed the crap out of them so we could take their oil" don't you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thala Dan View Post
    ....and it sounds a whole lot better than "We bombed the crap out of them so we could take their oil" don't you think?
    Exactly.

    What else is a politician going to say to the citizens of a very Christian Country when he himself has a higher than national average of Faithful supporters?
    He could justify and get support for nuking everyone in Iraq or Skinning them alive as long as he told the US citizens that " God told him to do it".

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomeat View Post
    However I refuse to generalise that all followers of a faith are murderers.
    @nomeat. There may be some extreme bigots who do, but I don't know any of them.

    Again and again we come across the mantra that criticism of various minority groups in our society should not be voiced. That Australians as a group are incapable of hearing such criticism without condemning every single member of that group. So, for instance, Police no longer include an offender's ethnicity in their statements, lest the Public attribute blame for the offence to a whole ethnic group. To me this is simply yet another attempt to stifle debate and discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DB44 View Post
    You actually did Bob. A religion is not a race and vice versa. The terms "racism" and "racist" have been so abused that they have lost much of the force they used to carry. Once being branded a racist was a terrible thing. Now I find allegations of racism too often shrill, untrue and used simply as an excuse for "de-platforming". Too often those making the false accusations are themselves racist.
    I probably misread what Al Bundy was getting at in his post:
    Quote Originally Posted by Al Bundy View Post
    For example; ...again Muslims (and not just Muslims) don’t appear to grasp the concept that Islam is an ideology practiced by different races, not just one race ( or is this a clear indication that Islam is even more of a sham, that you have to be Arabic to be a Muslim???, and thus is just as bigoted or even more so, than what they are accusing the Australian people of being?)
    But to me, it gave the impression, that he thought that Muslims seemed to think you had to be Arabic, to be a Muslim. Of course the majority of Muslims would have no such thought, because the majority of Muslims aren't Arabic.

    What I was getting at, is that when most people, here in Aus, refer to "Mussos" as they put it, what they are actually referring to is Arabic people. And in Australia, the majority of people of Arabic descent, aren't actually Muslim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DB44 View Post
    Police no longer include an offender's ethnicity in their statements, lest the Public attribute blame for the offence to a whole ethnic group.
    I'm surprised the LGBTXQWYBS"&CJ#>RP mob even let them still say man and woman these days in case the person ( what if they want to identify as a tea kettle that day? that would be non inclusive wouldn't it?) is some queer faggot that gets His his lace panties or her Boxer shorts in a twist over it.

    Height and hair colour along with what they were wearing will probably be deemed.... Something unacceptable... before long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thala Dan View Post
    Sorry, nomeat, but the whole "I did it for God" BS falls flat on its face in the last sentence of the Guardian article:



    You can forget God....he/she had bugger all to do with it.

    The entire Middle East sh#t-fight from go to whoa is about one thing and one thing only......OIL.

    Each country that has had the christian gods' beneficence bestowed upon it by the U.S. (and its gaggle of the willing) has been just another small part of a very big overall picture.

    And that picture has been solely about the security of access of the U.S. of A. to the vast oil reserves of the area.

    There have been a multitude of sub-plots, like attempting to deny Russian gas pipelines access to Europe, and the like........but insofar as the Wests' adventures in the Middle East are concerned, poor old God is nothing more than a convenient and morally assuaging fall guy.

    Every shot that has ever been fired in the Middle East has been about oil/gas and geopolitical influence and containment.

    A teaspoon of God just helps the medicine go down easier for the proletariat........and it sounds a whole lot better than "We bombed the crap out of them so we could take their oil" don't you think?
    I am fully aware that better access to oil is the number one reason for the invasion and maybe you missed my point when I said above:
    "Yes, the Hypocrisy is screaming here."

    So I think you agree with me at least that religion is used as an excuse to justify wrong doing but has it ever occurred to you that the terrorists might be doing the same thing?

    I am certainly not defending the Muslim faith as it takes away more freedom that the Christian but I am pretty sure 99% of all Muslims will not see justification of these terror acts in their religion.

    As for Bin Laden, I fail to find evidence that he could take over Iraq, more like another made up excuse like the WMDs and yes "God told me to".
    Saddam had his country pretty much under control as most dictators do, until we came in to ""Save"" them and release the beast.



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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_m_54 View Post
    I probably misread what Al Bundy was getting at in his post:
    I think you did too Bob, you missed his sarcasm & the 3 question marks on the second line that made the obvious sign of his intent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_m_54 View Post
    I probably misread what Al Bundy was getting at in his post:


    But to me, it gave the impression, that he thought that Muslims seemed to think you had to be Arabic, to be a Muslim. Of course the majority of Muslims would have no such thought, because the majority of Muslims aren't Arabic.

    What I was getting at, is that when most people, here in Aus, refer to "Mussos" as they put it, what they are actually referring to is Arabic people. And in Australia, the majority of people of Arabic descent, aren't actually Muslim.
    No Bob, I definitely didn't mean that Muslims thought that they had to be Arabic to be a Muslim, nor do I believe if someone is Arabic that they are by default a Muslim, sorry if my post misled you, my comment as Tiny pointed out was meant to be sarcastic.
    I am very aware that directly to the North West of Australia is a country with the largest Muslim population in the world, and they do not look in the least bit Arabic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nomeat View Post
    until we came in to ""Save"" them and release the beast.

    By "We" you mean once again the USA to keep their war industry ticking over and drawing every other country they are allied with into their needless mess.

    It is a very long time since the US at any point has not been at war constantly with someone. Certainly not since well before my time.
    They finish in one place and have already started somewhere else ready to go to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomeat View Post
    So I think you agree with me at least that religion is used as an excuse to justify wrong doing but has it ever occurred to you that the terrorists might be doing the same thing?
    Only every time I see or hear something about them on the news.

    Interesting read here:

    GOD AND WAR: AN AUDIT & AN EXPLORATION

    As the USA and the UK were preparing to invade Iraq in 2003, people around the world
    engaged in renewed debate about religion and war. ‘Holy war’, ‘God’s war’, ‘just war’, and
    ‘clash of civilizations’ were just a few of the terms. Was there some new war between
    Christianity and Islam? Are Al Qaida’s acts of terrorism a war between Islam and the secular
    West? What is the relationship between religion and war? Has there been a rise in religiously
    motivated violence?

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