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    Default It had to happen.....Toyota DPF

    Toyota faces class action over claims Hilux, Prado have faulty diesel filters

    A class action filed in the Federal Court today could affect up to 250,000 Toyota drivers nationwide, including owners of Australia's top-selling car — the Hilux.

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    yeah this has been dragging on for a while now , even with my car. watch this space I hope they get it sorted

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    Ah i missed this... no idea how?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ol' boy View Post
    Ah i missed this... no idea how?
    Sorry OB, my bad.....I overlooked the fact that there was an existing thread about this, although until yesterday it hadn't had a posting for close on a year, which is probably why I forgot about it

    Mods....please feel free to delete or merge this thread as you see fit.

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    is thats the diesel particle filter by chance
    my sons mazda bt50 has this error, the mech done a manual burn off
    has returned as yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philquad View Post
    is thats the diesel particle filter by chance
    my sons mazda bt50 has this error, the mech done a manual burn off
    has returned as yet.
    Yes, that's the beast....although most of the discussion has been about the problems experienced by Toyota owners......see this thread:



    Most DPF filters seem to share a common problem....that being that repeated slow urban driving doesn't allow high enough temperatures to develop to complete a full burn-off of the particles in the filter.

    In the case of Toyota, it would seem from the scuttlebutt that there may be additional technical problems with their particular unit....this has been exacerbated by the fact that they failed to provide a facility (switch) to permit the owner to initiate a manual burn (such as is fitted to my 2017 Hiace).

    Overall, I think the problem is twofold:

    New technology tacked onto an existing product and hastily introduced to the market without adequate testing, and

    Inadequate information to users about the purpose of the technology and how it affects, and needs to be managed by, the end user.

    How many people these days actually understand what is going on underneath the bonnet?
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    Can also happen to vehicles driving up to fall creek!! Doesn't just affect urban cowboys!

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    Shhhh! Is there anyway to bypass said filter without it being too obvious? Shhh? I didn't ask that, and nobody told me about it.
    I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lsemmens View Post
    Shhhh! Is there anyway to bypass said filter without it being too obvious? Shhh? I didn't ask that, and nobody told me about it.
    It would have to involve some kind of firmware update because there are differential pressure sensors either end of the cat. Someone would have to be doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lsemmens View Post
    Shhhh! Is there anyway to bypass said filter without it being too obvious? Shhh? I didn't ask that, and nobody told me about it.
    DPF Service solutions and DPF removal




    If you Google "DPF removal" you will find the answer to what you didn't ask

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyPatrol View Post
    Can also happen to vehicles driving up to fall creek!! Doesn't just affect urban cowboys!
    Yes.....I guess that's why I said:
    In the case of Toyota, it would seem from the scuttlebutt that there may be additional technical problems with their particular unit.

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    I'm talking about other vehicles not Toyotas. For example we used to see Subarus towed to us from Falls Creek with blocked DPFs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyPatrol View Post
    I'm talking about other vehicles not Toyotas. For example we used to see Subarus towed to us from Falls Creek with blocked DPFs.
    Seems like the Subaru has had DPF problems for quite a while.......lots of stuff on the 'net about it, particularly Europe.

    Plenty of offers of DPF removal but, like most other desirable things in life, it's illegal.

    One comment on a European site that caught my eye was:

    Crossing water (creeks)

    Since DPF sits down low and gets very hot (> 650°C, 1170°F) during active regeneration, getting in contact with water it may warp due to temperature shock and therefore be destroyed according to Australian forums.


    So, you can take your nice shiny new 4WD out into the bush and go wherever you like.....just be sure not to get it wet.

    Dammit! What have they done to the ol' ever-reliable, go-anywhere diesel engine ?

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    Effects lots of euro cars as well, a mate had a diesel Alfa and it would constantly have DPF issues even though he did a long commute with 50% highway driving, a new DPF was quoted at $4.5k.

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    a lot of arguments for petrol cars

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyPatrol View Post
    a lot of arguments for petrol cars
    I haven't owned a petrol vehicle for a very long time.........but one hiccup with the DPF on my Hiace, and I'll have to have a long, hard think about it.

    Maybe that's the been the plan all along......make diesel so damn unreliable and expensive that it becomes a no-brainer

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    we took the petrol option when buying a small car a few years back. 6l/100km long term average is pretty good.

    There has been talk that DPF's might get used in petrol cars soon so upcoming euro emmissions stds can be met !! Electric will be the way to go soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyPatrol View Post
    we took the petrol option when buying a small car a few years back. 6l/100km long term average is pretty good.

    There has been talk that DPF's might get used in petrol cars soon so upcoming euro emmissions stds can be met !! Electric will be the way to go soon.
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    I've been running fg falcon Ute's for 10 years.
    They average 10.5 to 11 l/100km.

    Motors good for at least 600000km, twice the average of a new diesel.

    Ive tried Triton, amarok, hilux diesels, none get better economy when loaded up.

    Yes, they're better when empty, but when loaded up the little diesels are very thirsty.

    2 amaroks blew up before 200k, Tritons last 300k, hiluxes had rooted injectors at 30k.

    I just bought a new 2019 hilux petrol with 6 speed auto.

    What a piece of shit, auto gearbox won't go into 6th on the Hwy when empty. On an 80km highway trip it went into 6th twice for a few seconds. It stays in 5th and converter doesn't lock up.

    It will randomly kick back to 4th and stay there all day. Manual mode does not work.

    Toyota said nothing wrong with it.

    I just traded it for a new 2019 diesel auto Triton.

    At least it goes into 6th....

    Economy empty not bad with egr delete cable.

    My oldest fg now has 992000km on it, second motor and original zf 6 speed....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyPatrol View Post

    There has been talk that DPF's might get used in petrol cars soon so upcoming euro emmissions stds can be met !! Electric will be the way to go soon.
    or just buy my 22 y/o Nissan diesel, doesn't have any of that DPF crap

    I am only selling it because of an electric thingy ...Pssst
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