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    Bushfires: Firebugs fuelling crisis as national arson arrest toll hits 183

    Says it all really.....throw in constant lightning strikes and all the fires that Scott Morrison has allegedly started, and that should account for all of them.



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    OK, then.....sorry that you don't like the messenger.....or is it the message?
    My old man didn't like Adolf OR his message...your assertion is absurd.

    The ABC deletes inconvenient posts as mentioned in posts above, so as a reliable source they are at least suspect.

    We could to and fro like this forever, so I'll leave it at this....it seems to me that you preach non political debate, but engage in it as much as anyone else.

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    Its also disappointing ( but not surprising) to see that climate loonies are using photos on social media that are not of the actual fires and pretending they are. Every idiot of course shares them and off they go. Facebook, while politically not as loony left as twitter, as many well meaning older folk who spend their days sharing every single thing they see on the internet. Usually scams ( how many companies are likely to give away 6 RV's worth 800,000 each in a facebook giveaway ?), but anything and everything.

    Some known fakes listed a fakes in the media today.

    Great fake from ABC News in the US. Obviously our ABC's have something in common.....


    A fake NASA satellite image


    A photo from Greece a few weeks ago


    Photo shopped koala

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    Quote Originally Posted by enf View Post
    My old man didn't like Adolf OR his message...your assertion is absurd.

    The ABC deletes inconvenient posts as mentioned in posts above, so as a reliable source they are at least suspect.

    We could to and fro like this forever, so I'll leave it at this....it seems to me that you preach non political debate, but engage in it as much as anyone else.

    No I engage in discussion based on facts, not opinions forged in ideological crucibles.

    I detest the Greens (the politicians, that is) as a virtue-signaling, identity-politics bunch of latte-sipping wankers........I'd rather see Pauline Hanson hold their seats in parliament.

    But I equally detest ideologically blinded views that seek out an easy and identifiable "enemy" to blame for all their woes.

    Blindly pointing the finger at the 3% of our polity (the Greens) is simply letting the other 97% off the hook........come in sucker.

    And that 97% has got a lot to answer for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enf View Post
    My old man didn't like Adolf OR his message...your assertion is absurd.
    Godwins law at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin View Post
    Bushfires: Firebugs fuelling crisis as national arson arrest toll hits 183

    Says it all really.....throw in constant lightning strikes and all the fires that Scott Morrison has allegedly started, and that should account for all of them.
    No link.....quelle surprise.

    Fires misinformation being spread through social media

    A number of the tweets took police figures out of context and claimed almost 200 arsonists had been arrested in NSW.

    The actual number of people charged with deliberately lighting a fire is 24 — even fewer managed to spark large blazes.


    I managed to get a look at your article from The Australian before I was "subscribed" out - that article also confirms that only 24 people have actually been charged - the others have been cautioned for things like lighting camp fires, throwing cigarette butts out the window, and other such "Total Fire Ban" offences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin View Post
    Its also disappointing ( but not surprising) to see that climate loonies are using photos on social media that are not of the actual fires and pretending they are. Every idiot of course shares them and off they go. Facebook, while politically not as loony left as twitter, as many well meaning older folk who spend their days sharing every single thing they see on the internet. Usually scams ( how many companies are likely to give away 6 RV's worth 800,000 each in a facebook giveaway ?), but anything and everything.
    Social Media.....that internationally renowned source of reliable and accurate information.

    Thank goodness our erstwhile Mainstream Media would never be caught using doctored images.

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    A majority of the fires are caused by lightning strikes, fuelled by extremely dry vegetation due to drought and fanned by very intense hot winds, which again starts new spot fires.

    Anybody claiming that weather has nothing to do with this shouldn't really be on this planet.

    Under normal conditions many fires started by arson have been extinguished.
    24 arrested for arson also sounds pretty average for any time, actually a rather low average considering around 25 million people.
    Yet the bird brains suddenly decided to blame it all on the arsonists, yes that is so typical.
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    The weather has something to do with it but 'weather' (pun intended) it's do do with climate change is another story (or argument) :P

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    Firefighters demand national royal commission amid claims of red tape hampering volunteers


    Firefighting associations are claiming more than 7,000 people are stuck in a backlog trying to rejoin volunteer firefighting efforts in New South Wales, as professional and volunteer firefighter associations demand an urgent royal commission into the unfolding bushfire crisis.
    Resourcing the key to bushfire preparation and response

    The United Firefighters' Union of South Australia, in joining the demand for a national inquiry, said there were many ageing fire trucks in the South Australian fleet that could not be properly equipped.

    "Our people work very hard on the smell of what's frankly an oily rag," state secretary Max Adlam said.

    "These people are passionate about what they do.

    "I think its incumbent upon our political leaders to get their acts together, and to ensure that frontline emergency services workers are properly resourced and the communities are looked after."

    The Public Service Association of New South Wales warned there had been cutbacks to staff working in national parks, and claimed there was only one fire management officer monitoring the area from Port Macquarie through to the Queensland border in New South Wales.

    General secretary Stewart Little said it was welcome to hear the Federal Government talking about appropriate resourcing and the injection of money into bushfire-hit areas, but it was too late.

    "Sure they're talking about it now, but why on Earth were we not talking about this at the beginning of the fire season in August back in New South Wales."



    Very little to do with the Greens, since they don't control any State budgets...........all the handiwork of the other 97%!

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    Leroy,

    Starting to smoke up something fierce here again.

    Multiple new fires on the Southeastern side of Lake Buffalo........presumably not started by arsonists

    Thurs/Fri not looking promising....here we go again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thala Dan View Post
    Leroy,

    Starting to smoke up something fierce here again.

    Multiple new fires on the Southeastern side of Lake Buffalo........presumably not started by arsonists

    Thurs/Fri not looking promising....here we go again

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    reading between the lines I think things are starting to get away. More spotting/embers starting new fires in the N.E. direction. The fires down there are over 100,000ha now. They are huge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by admin View Post
    Bushfires: Firebugs fuelling crisis as national arson arrest toll hits 183


    Says it all really.....throw in constant lightning strikes and all the fires that Scott Morrison has allegedly started, and that should account for all of them.
    wonder how many are started by the peace loving religion.
    bet you will never get to hear about that part.

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    starting to get serious tonight with spotting to the north of the front coming up from the west side of Mt Buffalo. Not far from Myrtleford now!


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    Leroy,

    Emergency Warning was issued last night for the Carboor fires....this morning has been dropped back to a Watch and Act:






    The Carboor cluster can be seen here, and a few extra spots on the southeastern flank of Buffalo:



    Choppers have been busy out of DELWP on the Great Alpine, heading west, presumably to Carboor. Big one yesterday arvo hauling a bucket - looked military, white and blue livery, looked like an overgrown Seaking.

    Enjoying the calm before the storm at the moment.....if you can call working with a chainsaw up a ladder "enjoying"

    Bureau is saying that tomorrows' southerlies won't be as bad as last weekend
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    OUCH!!

    East Gippsland fires:



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    From the sublime to the just downright bloody ridiculous!

    The 97% strike again:

    WA Emergency Services Levy funding used to pay for $100,000 worth of artwork at fire stations

    The WA Government has defended using more than $100,000 raised from an emergency services levy to install public art at new fire stations.

    The Emergency Services Levy (ESL) is collected by local governments from ratepayers on behalf of the Department of Fire and Emergency Services (DFES).

    According to the DFES: "Every cent collected from the ESL goes towards providing emergency services to the community."

    But because of the WA Government's longstanding Percent for Art Scheme, which requires up to one per cent of the construction budget for new public buildings costing over $2 million to be spent on artwork, some of this money has been allocated to public art installations.


    You really couldn't make this stuff up.

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    If they want art then let a local artist paint their doors and eaves voluntarily.
    That way the artist gets a little well known and can sell his art better while they have provided a voluntary service for the good of us all.

    The bureaucrats that think up this crap be sacked and the money saved used to fund our frontline public services.
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    Hope you guys get this rain front in the East, were getting it here & it's passing over Melbourne now.
    Nothing overly heavy but good rain. Had 10mls here already.

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