Coronavirus

[enf]

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If Australians were suddenly provided with open state boarders, international travel and no lock downs, but had to deal with 100’s of (what are) preventable deaths each month, the public would run riot.

Agreed too, but a large part of that is due to the brainwashing of the premiers and the gullibility and politically motivated fostered fears of the population.

We ARE weak, both morally and technically. "She'll be right" has gone from a joke to a national obsession as our freedoms and common sense are attacked and we laugh it off for expediency.

It doesn't bode well....

[wotnot]

If you've got 10mins of spare screen time ->

[LeroyPatrol]

interesting syd press conference today. Almost all in ICU have had double jab except one and one had none I think was what was said. Rather concerning with the push to Vaccinate.

[wotnot]

"Queensland has recorded one new locally acquired COVID-19 case in the past 24 hours as several new exposure sites have been listed on the Gold Coast.


The positive case is a man who returned from China and spent two weeks in hotel quarantine.

Chief Health Officer Jeannette Young said he had three negative tests before leaving quarantine.

The man, in his 40s, was fully vaccinated."

[bob_m_54]

interesting syd press conference today. Almost all in ICU have had double jab except one and one had none I think was what was said. Rather concerning with the push to Vaccinate.

I heard it was the other way around. Of the 43 cases in ICU, none were fully vaccinated..

[enf]

I heard it was the other way around. Of the 43 cases in ICU, none were fully vaccinated..

I guess it depends on the source of the information doesn't it. It's an unfortunate reality these days that all media outlets will lie.

[LeroyPatrol]

i have the clip on my phone. Maybe 'he' made a mistake?

[peteramjet]

I guess it depends on the source of the information doesn't it. It's an unfortunate reality these days that all media outlets will lie.

Was the other way around at the media briefing - no person in ICU who had been vaccinated. Of the other people in hospital, all were unvaccinated, apart from one who had only one dose.

Be keen know what news source was advising the opposite.

Regardless though, no one in any position of medical authority has ever alluded that vaccination stops you getting COVID, or prevents you from spreading it. The vaccination greatly reduces the effects of the virus and by the same token reduces the transmissibility of the virus to others.

[Au_radio]

Final COVID-19 investigation report released by US gov .

Interesting timelines located near end of document.

Official link .

[wotnot]

Housemate wanders in, handing me this printout -->>

This is the sort of BS you get 'out there' ~ and that pdf is exactly such BS....(follow the citation link at the bottom)

[wotnot]

Final COVID-19 investigation report released by US gov .

Interesting timelines located near end of document.

Official link .

Even if China the CCP was 250% responsible, who's going to hold them accountable? And how? I think I've watched at least 3 decades of China the CCP doing as they want, all the way from humanitarian rights, to gross ecological damage, and everywhere in between.

edit: corrected oversight

[LeroyPatrol]

I've had my first jab but that's because I'm considered a front line worker but I really don't know what to think now....

....Leroy

[wotnot]

[enf]

I've had my first jab but that's because I'm considered a front line worker but I really don't know what to think now....

....Leroy

I do. They're all full of bullsh!t and this thing is with us from now on.....

[Al Bundy]

I've had my first jab but that's because I'm considered a front line worker but I really don't know what to think now....

....Leroy

When did they think that those who are fully vaccinated wouldn’t still catch and carry the virus nor be contagious?
I saw a Vic Health “doctor” speak on TV the other day and said Victoria won’t get “herd immunity” until over 80% are vaccinated, and this was from a “doctor”, unbelievable!!!
I can only assume that he thinks somehow that 80%+ who are immunised will suddenly not be capable of catching the virus, nor be able to pass it on ... (I shake my head when I here utter crap come out of people’s mouth, who are meant to be the “experts”)

[lsemmens]

It could well mean that those who are inoculated, CAN get the virus, BUT, the effects will be reduced and a greater level of immunity could be gained as a result. Hence the thinking that 70% inoculation is the road to "herd" immunity.

[Al Bundy]

It could well mean that those who are inoculated, CAN get the virus, BUT, the effects will be reduced and a greater level of immunity could be gained as a result. Hence the thinking that 70% inoculation is the road to "herd" immunity.

Yes they CAN get the virus, BUT they can still transmit it, even with 100% vaccination there will be no immunity, the thinking with Polio and Small pox was that if enough people are immune eventually herd immunity is achieved and the virus can’t survive, that is not going to be how it is with Coronavirus, it will remain in the community until eventually it finds a victim who, for whatever reason hasn’t or can’t be vaccinated, and depending on their health as to whether they get a cough, or whether they die, at the moment no vaccine is going to kill this thing off, hence there will never be “herd immunity”.

[enf]

Yes they CAN get the virus, BUT they can still transmit it, even with 100% vaccination there will be no immunity, the thinking with Polio and Small pox was that if enough people are immune eventually herd immunity is achieved and the virus can’t survive, that is not going to be how it is with Coronavirus, it will remain in the community until eventually it finds a victim who, for whatever reason hasn’t or can’t be vaccinated, and depending on their health as to whether they get a cough, or whether they die, at the moment no vaccine is going to kill this thing off, hence there will never be “herd immunity”.

Like I said, it's with us and won't go away....any herd immunity is useless against something that appears to mutate so quickly.

Haven't checked it out, but heard today that the QLD chief health officers (Dr. Young) partner is head of a committee or something sponsored by Pfizer....hope it has nothing to do with a conflict of interest. I also hope that it's wrong.....

[fromaron]

Haven't checked it out, but heard today that the QLD chief health officers (Dr. Young) partner is head of a committee or something sponsored by Pfizer....hope it has nothing to do with a conflict of interest. I also hope that it's wrong.....

I heard this too few days ago and I believe it is true.

As I also said before Herd immunity is complete bullshit. Simple example is our well known flu. You would think we should have the herd immunity long time ago but it is not the case. Flu vaccines have 50-60% efficacy at best and I suspect Covid vaccines claim higher efficacy just to ensure healthy profit for Pfeizer.

I think yesterday numbers from NSW shown 53 people hospitalized with 43 not being vaccinated. You wild guess what makes the balance.

[enf]

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I think yesterday numbers from NSW shown 53 people hospitalized with 43 not being vaccinated. You wild guess what makes the balance.

Fully vaccinated?....there are a huge number of people that are only half done...myself included..