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    Quote Originally Posted by alpha0ne View Post
    Just like the common cold/flu every year and with similar death rates................except the common cold/flu didn't decimate the economy......................and VASSSSTLY enrich big pharma
    But NOT similar infection rates...it's far more deadly in that respect....and the death rates would be like overseas without prompt and relatively accurate responses to the real experts from the Feds...it's the states that killed the economy.

    enrich big pharma? Don't they all.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by alpha0ne View Post
    Just like the common cold/flu every year and with similar death rates................except the common cold/flu didn't decimate the economy......................and VASSSSTLY enrich big pharma
    Why do people continue to perpetuate the untruth that COVID-19 has similar death rates to the common cold/flu?

    More than 2000 people died from COVID-19 yesterday in the USA. Several days ago that number was 3000 people. More than 301,000 have died since March. At current rates that figure is expected to be 350,000 deaths in 12 months from COVID-19 in the USA.

    Last flu season in the USA, influenza claimed between 24,000 and 62,000 lives (CDC figures). At it's very highest that is less that 1/5 of the deaths from COVID-19.

    I'm not suggesting COVID-19 is the deadliest virus around, but the fact that COVID-19 is significantly deadlier that influenza should not be in dispute.

    The fact Australia has not suffered from similar death rates is because of measures taken here - social distancing, restrictions, closures, etc - all the things they refuse to do in the USA. Those measures have undoubtable effected the economy, but they have also indisputably saved many 10's of thousands of lives here.

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    Yes, it's more contagious, but unless you know how many people in the USA caught the flu last year any death rate comparison is meaningless....

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoe View Post
    Yes, it's more contagious, but unless you know how many people in the USA caught the flu last year any death rate comparison is meaningless....
    The numbers from offical sources (CDC, etc) are easy to find on their website.

    The CDC figures identified between 39-56 million people in the USA had the flu in the last season, with the deaths between 24-62,000.

    In the 10 months since March there have been just shy of 17 million COVID-19 cases in the USA. The death rate current stands at 301,000.

    Clearly, despite the flu infecting at least 3 times as many people, the death rate is far higher for COVID-19.

    But again the caveat, I’m not suggesting COVID-19 is the worlds most deadly virus - it’s not - but it is significantly more deadly than influenza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peteramjet View Post

    More than 2000 people died from COVID-19 yesterday in the USA.
    Wrong.................ppl died from many other illness's eg heart failure/cancer/stupidity/any number of old age ailments who tested positive to the china flu and are still being counted as dying from said china flu

    You gotta pad the numbers.............there's more $ to be made

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpha0ne View Post
    Wrong.................ppl died from many other illness's eg heart failure/cancer/stupidity/any number of old age ailments who tested positive to the china flu and are still being counted as dying from said china flu

    You gotta pad the numbers.............there's more $ to be made
    The figure may be a bit vague, but peteramjets statement is still correct. If you have cancer and get shot in the head, you died from a gunshot wound.

    That this virus is far worse than regular seasonal flu, both in terms of transmission and severity seems obvious to nearly all.

    We got lucky IMHO. We had the right federal medical experts, a national health system, and a prime minister who backed them and refused to be swayed by the absurd and useless ratings through panic seeking media. In my view, it's sad that the states didn't do the same, but reverted to type.
    The fact that there's a highway to hell and a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic flow.

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    We got lucky IMHO.
    Talking with my hepatologist about the covid19 spread, his immediate reply, relative to the way the virus is transmitted, was that you'll find the numbers closely correlate to degrees of population density, and when you look at it from that perspective, we'd be lucky we live where we are.


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    Quote Originally Posted by enf View Post
    The figure may be a bit vague, but peteramjets statement is still correct. If you have cancer and get shot in the head, you died from a gunshot wound.
    I personally only 1 'Covid' fatality circumstance close enough to comment, but basically he had terminal stage cancer & had been given 2 weeks to live. He had already survived about 6 months longer than his earlier prognosis. 13 days later he died. After death was tested & found to be covid positive & now he has been counted as a covid death.
    Considering that there have been a total of 6 covid deaths in Qld & he is one of these statistics, then based on this experience alone then that is a 17% padding straight away.

    There has been a lot of covid numbers padding

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    Quote Originally Posted by madtech View Post
    I personally only 1 'Covid' fatality circumstance close enough to comment, but basically he had terminal stage cancer & had been given 2 weeks to live. He had already survived about 6 months longer than his earlier prognosis. 13 days later he died. After death was tested & found to be covid positive & now he has been counted as a covid death.
    Considering that there have been a total of 6 covid deaths in Qld & he is one of these statistics, then based on this experience alone then that is a 17% padding straight away.

    There has been a lot of covid numbers padding
    Of course there has......but statistically I doubt it's that much. There were 3 deaths here in the ACT, and I knew one of them. She was as healthy as you would expect and was my age. She was also actually on the Poxy Princess.

    We need to be careful not to buy into the social media and press insanity. This thing IS bad.....but we also need to keep it in perspective....
    The fact that there's a highway to hell and a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic flow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enf View Post
    Of course there has......but statistically I doubt it's that much. There were 3 deaths here in the ACT, and I knew one of them. She was as healthy as you would expect and was my age. She was also actually on the Poxy Princess.

    We need to be careful not to buy into the social media and press insanity. This thing IS bad.....but we also need to keep it in perspective....

    i reckon the wifi on these cruise ships was so strong that it actually poisoned the passengers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kclar View Post

    i reckon the wifi on these cruise ships was so strong that it actually poisoned the passengers.
    Hahaha... you are joking I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wotnot View Post
    Talking with my hepatologist about the covid19 spread, his immediate reply, relative to the way the virus is transmitted, was that you'll find the numbers closely correlate to degrees of population density, and when you look at it from that perspective, we'd be lucky we live where we are.

    Cruise ships have population density and powerful wifi

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    Quote Originally Posted by kclar View Post
    Cruise ships have population density and powerful wifi
    I just had a thought. I wonder if Corona Virus is being spread by the Chinese GPS firmware updates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kclar View Post
    Cruise ships have population density and powerful wifi
    You're not joking are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kclar View Post
    Cruise ships have population density and powerful wifi

    Huawei's 5G network caused a common flu virus to mutate into Covid-19.

    Lucky I don't have a google account, otherwise I could create a 'convincing' video about it that would go viral on YT for the Trump fans
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Fester View Post
    Huawei's 5G network caused a common flu virus to mutate into Covid-19.

    Lucky I don't have a google account, otherwise I could create a 'convincing' video about it that would go viral on YT for the Trump fans
    Whats ANY of that got to do with Trump?
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    Quote Originally Posted by enf View Post
    Whats ANY of that got to do with Trump?
    He said Trump fans... and what's that got to do with it? Gullibility mostly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enf View Post
    Whats ANY of that got to do with Trump?
    Trump FANS, followers or fanatics have now everything to do with this, they technically don't even need Trump any more.

    You must have missed the countless interviews where they claim COVID is only a conspiracy created by the Democrats and I assure you I could create a video with my 'technical background' so convincing that they would be attracted to it like flies to a well hung T-bone steak lying out in the sun the whole day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_m_54 View Post
    Hahaha... you are joking I hope.

    Its either the cruise ships or the testing method.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onefella View Post
    You're not joking are you?

    The effects are well documented.
    An inconvenient truth for our tech centered world.

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