Reply With Quoteeaglem (22-03-20)
And that is just those that tested for itOriginally Posted by fandtm666
What multiple do you think it is for those with no or little symptoms, or just don't want to get tested for whatever reason or simply dont know they have it yet because they in the early stages?
I am wondering when Risk vs Reward will kick in this is country
Plenty of School Teachers, Nurses, etc that would be nearing retirement age and must be thinking "They are not paying me enough for this risk" .... Do i return to work even though the Government says i'm meant too?
Last edited by ol' boy; 22-03-20 at 08:45 AM.
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eaglem (22-03-20)
Nurses will save lives if they do.
Teachers will save lives if they don't.
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Speaking of World O Meter
Ever stopped to look at the GOVERNMENT & ECONOMICS section.... bajesus!!!!
Then click to Year and Month
If u want to go on an expedition get a Land Rover, if u want to come home from an expedition get a Landcruiser!
I honestly can not believe Schools are still open
Talk about a breeding ground and threat to older staff
No School has been provided PPE or Hand Sanitiser to protect employees and/or students
Yet in the next breath, Government and Police are saying they will "Fine" members of the public for being in large gatherings (over 100 people) and not self isolating.
Plenty of schools are 1200+ students, some a lot more than that.
Schools teachers are being used as Baby Sitters
Some Private Schools have closed and told Staff they are stood down without pay??
What?? Private School fees are paid in advance.
I can see Teachers and Staff fronting up Principles over this weekend and Principles having to tell Government, staff just aren't coming Monday, we can't open.
If 31 people got COVID-19 from attending 1 wedding in Australia
Australia took more isolation precautions when we had Equine Influenza in 2007.
Just goes to show its all about money.
Last edited by ol' boy; 22-03-20 at 02:03 PM.
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william10 (22-03-20)
One argument I've heard in favour of keeping schools open is that if the schools are closed, the kids will be dumped on the "grandma and grandpa child minding service" and that's ultimately a worse outcome for our society.
my answer to that is for the grand parents to remind their kids
fk you you wanted them you keep them.
that is the message i gave my kid , ive done my bit
now wanna enjoy life not be someones baby sitter.
Yes, i heard similar, basically, if they are not at school, where are they?
They will not stay at home...
It's fair point.... It is a Chicken and Egg argument
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lsemmens (22-03-20)
Coronavirus: What if we did NOTHING?
That argument is flawed in so many ways.
Grandparents minding the kids BEFORE they get infected at school will not get infected!
That is why schools need to be shut down TOMORROW, or maybe just skeleton classes with very low numbers to maintain social distancing for those who absolutely can not find a way to home school like families where both partners are emergency workers although I can't believe these people do not have friends or relatives who could help.
There are currently 'only' 1000 infected in Australia, so the likely hood of having an infected child at school RIGHT NOW is still low.
Today in two weeks however we WILL see 20,000-30,000 infected(showing symptoms) if we do nothing, up to 30% young people based on latest data.
Many of those 30k people will start getting infected tomorrow as it can take 2 weeks for the incubation time.
Take them out of the equation NOW and we will flatten the curve.
The earlier we fully shut down and everybody except emergency services take 2-3 months holidays , the quicker we can be back in business, maybe in 3 months as things are already looking a lot better in China.
Only unknown is our upcoming flu season, which makes things difficult to compare to those northern hemisphere countries who may soon recover because they locked all down earlier or were just more disciplined than us.
ScoMo do you want the economy to suffer for 3 months or 3 years?
Nip the bud before you are forced to fell the tree !
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That is pretty much it
Sure it might be being over precautious, but what other options are there?
I love how Australia is so proud to say "We are leading the world at xxxxx"
Yet when it comes to a world health issue, we are just being followers
The Mayor of New York made a great public speech, he seems to understand the situation
Go hard, go early, if saves just one life, it was worth it.
Sooner it's nipped in the butt the better
Last edited by ol' boy; 22-03-20 at 02:11 PM.
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hinekadon (22-03-20)
As a city mayor, he has more to lose - population of New York ... 8.6million , population of Canberra .. 400,000 =)
hinekadon (22-03-20)
IQ of ScoMo 70
If u want to go on an expedition get a Land Rover, if u want to come home from an expedition get a Landcruiser!
hinekadon (22-03-20),Uncle Fester (22-03-20)
Wait until this takes hold in the African Nations
Only the rich will get treatment, a social war will start, greater than what is there already....
Then China will step in and save them with medical aid, just the backdoor to thier hearts and minds they have been waiting for,
Not that they don't already blackmail them with lending for projects they know they can't complete or repay.
If u want to go on an expedition get a Land Rover, if u want to come home from an expedition get a Landcruiser!
There is no over cautious with something like this. We get one shot at keeping the numbers down. There is no second chance if we don’t go in hard enough to start with.
That’s why I just can’t understand the slack response from our governments. Waiting for weeks to close the borders, but then allowing five people freshly off a cruise ship with active cases to come home to Tasmania. WTF.
Aaand we are STILL not seeing the use of non contact thermometers to check the temperature of people getting off aircraft and ships - something Asian countries started doing months ago.
I’ve been playing around with my $10 BangGood non contact thermometer. It’s surprisingly accurate and consistent when compared to a “proper” thermometer built to take a person’s temperature.
Tiny (23-03-20)
The Donald Trump clips in there are deeply disturbing. America must be absolutely screwed now... they just don’t know it yet.
mtv (22-03-20)
What Bill said in 2015 +1.
Finally some common sense with Schools and AFL shut down
Well, who cares about AFL, it probably wasn't that big a deal without the crowd
Well bugger me, a call for Single Use Shopping bags to come back
Last edited by ol' boy; 22-03-20 at 06:15 PM.
If u want to go on an expedition get a Land Rover, if u want to come home from an expedition get a Landcruiser!
Only for the two Labor governed states(go figure) VIC, ACT.
I am happy to read that ACT seems to be following what I suggested above, while VIC bringing holidays forward is not such a good idea in the middle of all the work flow and assignments. Distance education is the way to go.
Google classroom can run on any old puter just with the Firefox browser, even Linux I tested. At least the setup my son's public high school uses.
I have kept him home preemptively since last Wednesday. Home schooling is fun. Teachers have provided all their resources.
We will now have plenty of time to learn to become teachers, not just Netflix 24/7.
Last edited by Uncle Fester; 22-03-20 at 06:37 PM.
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ol' boy (22-03-20)
This was an interesting watch
Are we doing enough???
2 Layers of Protective Clothing and what ever went inside, had to stay inside
Yet at Box Hill Hospital, because of lack of PPE, Nurses are told to wear the one face mask all day
Last edited by ol' boy; 22-03-20 at 06:50 PM.
If u want to go on an expedition get a Land Rover, if u want to come home from an expedition get a Landcruiser!
Got pulled over for an RBT today .. takes about 4minutes worth of questions before we even get to the breath testing...
ol' boy (22-03-20)
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