Read the same on WeChat in chinese.
Read the same on WeChat in chinese.
Having myself contracted HCV (hepatitis C) in the late 70's from a tainted blood transfusion, and living for so many years with that virus rendering my liver tissue into scar tissue (fibrosis), until a cure for that specific HCV strain (there's 7 in total) I was suffering from was developed in 2017, I know you can't talk about fibrosis in such general, unspecific terms. Afaik, just in regards the pulmonary system, there's at least 3 or 4 kinds of fibrosis that can affect that part of the body ~ asbestosis is one many would be aware of, itself being a cause/form of pulmonary fibrosis. That "Stanford" advice, is possibly applicable to the very young, or the very old (already subject to some palliative care) or subject to some other pre-existing medical condition.
This is why all this raw data we're seeing is ostensibly meaningless to me ~ some other member here pointed out how good the practice of data gathering is these days ~ true, but does than infer we plebeians get to see it? Nah... we can't take any relative meaning from the data, for instance reporting '4000 people dead', until you see the breakdown of what age groups, demographic dispositions, and overall general health/medical history of each of the deceased actually was at or leading up to the time of death. }shrug{ ...that's how you have to treat these things.
In the grand scheme of things, 7.8billion people are going to be relatively unaffected by a few thousand deaths ... in fact, one begins to wonder just how many deaths would need to take place, for whatever the reason, to actually impact our species' continued proliferation across the face of the planet. The greater majority will live, inherit natural immunity or some cure/vaccine will be developed, just like in times past...and life will go on as before, until it happens again ... and of -that-, you can be sure =)
Sorry to hear that wotnot, The raw data is meaningless bcoz we have no experince in it's collection. /very inexperienced
That's why Europe and the US are behind the eight ball. Singapore and Taiwan/Sth Korea have a better system in place and the figures show..
Sadly, viruses don't wait for policies to get OK'd Or do they have a Time-Out because it's the weekend and the footy is on. lol
i believe it's only a matter of time before they Lock down the City of Melbourne and other cities..
This Government is following the Europeans and the US and data is not all there.. complete disaster.
Last edited by Johnno; 15-03-20 at 10:00 PM.
Geez it's really tee'd off now
Our little supermarket has Wuhan Virus digital warnings on each Checkout Screen
The morning bretho at work has been canned because of people breathing....
Sadly no implementation of a Temperature scanner though.
And there is a pre start meeting at many schools tomorrow
Lets the Aussie Wuhan Games begin
If u want to go on an expedition get a Land Rover, if u want to come home from an expedition get a Landcruiser!
Johnno (15-03-20)
I wish people would stop going on about these lists that are obviously incorrect and DYOR!!!
If the virus dies at 27˚C how come it doesn't die in a human body that is over 36˚C and breeds quite happily?
I have done searches on my own and find reports from more reliable sources that the virus can survive 9 days on metallic or other hard surfaces, colder surfaces even longer.
But what drinking ice cold drinks has to do with it makes no sense, unless somebody sneezed on the ice.
I will continue to drink cold beer and be assured that will not be the reason why I might catch the virus.
My son going to school however will be a likely reason as I will not know until it is too late because he might never show symptoms.
So I have supplied him with a small sprayer that contains an 0.6% solution of H2O2 (diluted with distilled water) to spay the desks he has to use and wipe with tissue after one minute, in an attempt to kill the virus from former students who may have coughed and sneezed all over the desks.
Gargling that 0.5% H2O2 solution would make a lot of sense too for those who think that they might be infected. It is actually printed on the bottle to use as mouth wash.
Edit: BTW benzalkonium chloride mentioned in that article that is found less effective is the active ingredient in Dettol.
Last edited by Uncle Fester; 15-03-20 at 09:40 PM.
Update: A deletion of features that work well and ain't broke but are deemed outdated in order to add things that are up to date and broken.
Compatibility: A word soon to be deleted from our dictionaries as it is outdated.
Humans: Entities that are not only outdated but broken... AI-self-learning-update-error...terminate...terminate...
shred (16-03-20)
hehe...Have you ever watched 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding' the old man uses Windex and swears that it kills everything...LOL
I'm a Dettol fanboy myself..lol
"BTW benzalkonium chloride mentioned in that article that is found less effective is the active ingredient in Dettol."
Uncle Fester,,,,,That link is CALLING MY DADDY a LIAR.. lol hehe
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Last edited by Uncle Fester; 15-03-20 at 09:26 PM.
Update: A deletion of features that work well and ain't broke but are deemed outdated in order to add things that are up to date and broken.
Compatibility: A word soon to be deleted from our dictionaries as it is outdated.
Humans: Entities that are not only outdated but broken... AI-self-learning-update-error...terminate...terminate...
As much as Sydney Watson makes my ears bleed
Here is an insight into an American COVID-19 Hospital Check
Hopefully its handled a lot better in Australia
It also highlights the costs, if you are in America
Last edited by ol' boy; 15-03-20 at 09:33 PM.
If u want to go on an expedition get a Land Rover, if u want to come home from an expedition get a Landcruiser!
Johnno (15-03-20)
With the working week starting and WorkSafe Victoria new Manslaughter in the WorkPlace laws coming into effect July 1
And all the HSE Officers and Departments out there, i wonder if this will be a consideration??
Anyway, here is all WorkSafe Victoria have to say on the matter, they hand balled it to VicGov Human Services.... Typical.
Only 100 views, was hardly worth making
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enf (16-03-20)
Live Updates:
Interesting move.... Especially as many Elderly have young people shop for them, ESPECIALLY in these times of isolation
Australian Associated Press is reporting that Woolworths, one of Australia’s two big supermarket chains, will open its doors only to the elderly and disabled for an hour on Tuesday morning.
Woolworths will open its doors exclusively to the elderly and people with disabilities for a dedicated shopping hour, after panic buying due to the coronavirus stripped shelves of essentials items.
Most of its supermarkets across the nation will open to the vulnerable only from 7am to 8am, beginning on Tuesday.
Panic buying in recent weeks sparked by the spread of Covid-19 in Australia has seen supermarkets stripped of toilet paper, pasta and tinned and other dried goods.
“The move has been prompted by the unprecedented demand in supermarkets over the past week, which has seen many elderly and vulnerable people in the community missing out on vital items they may need when they shop,” Woolworths announced on Monday.
The managing director, Claire Peters, said despite the retailer’s attempts to quickly restock shelves, many elderly customers had continued to miss out.
“This temporary measure will give them, and those with a disability, the opportunity to shop before our stores officially open - helping them obtain the essential items they need most in a less crowded environment,” Peters said.
Access will be granted if the shopper has a relevant government issued concession card.
All other shoppers will be granted access after 8am.
“Now - more than ever - we need to be kind to each other,” Peters said.
Last edited by ol' boy; 16-03-20 at 08:07 AM.
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hinekadon (16-03-20)
From a Swedish mate of mine ;
"In Sweden it's a circus. We stopped testing in the midst of a case explosion because we have no resources to test people. Now no-one have any idea how many are infected here. It's surreal. Companies are closing down like mad"
Another buddy in Holland is subject to this ->
I asked my Swedish mate if he'd heard anything about Greta? He replied..."How dare you cough near me!"
Well it's Monday at 10am
Didn't take long and it's already in Mining Camp Sites.
Positive Test from a QLD mine so far.
Officially quoted as 1
Doctor says it's more like 20 people...
And that is just 1 camp!
Spin the Corona bottle begins
Last edited by ol' boy; 16-03-20 at 10:50 AM.
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hinekadon (16-03-20)
Glastonbury appears to be in doubt ...
If Australia is a democracy why, then, is voting compulsory?
"What has changed between the arrival of the First Fleet and today?"
"Wearing leg irons is now not required."
hinekadon (16-03-20)
I think a lot of people took this as a media beat up at first.
Not so much now.
I can't remember (not that means much) anything in my lifetime where so many things were closed down and there being runs on supplies like this.
It seems the TP panic is not just here. Mate in the states emailed me and said it's the same there.
Somewhat frightening times ahead I think.
3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun.
SO, if this were to be believed then it would die a natural death the moment it hits your body. normal Body temp is 37.
Ignore this, been covered already. That'll teach me not to finish reading a thread before I engage my "mouth"!
Last edited by lsemmens; 16-03-20 at 01:27 PM.
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