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    Default Hills r8 issues with reed zones on 5,6,7

    Morning all, hope everyone is well
    You guys have been a big help to me in the past with a couple of alarms, hoping you can help again

    I work in the electrical maintenance field for mainly rentals properties.
    Im not an expert on security systems but i do know a little just to get me by as part my role is to get alarms going for tenants of my clients when moving into properties. I work on alot of different of brands and models, so it is a little hard for me to get familiar with specific panels, and sometimes it a year or so that i work on the same model/brand panel.

    My brother just bought a property and it has a Hills R8.
    Of course the agents didnt pass on the user codes, so i told my brother not to worry, ill reset the panel and we will program it to his needs
    So ive done that, and have got pretty much everything working.
    However i got stuck with zones 5, 6, 7 not working at all

    Zone 5 laundry reed
    Zone 6 sliding door reed (which im still yet to find where the reeds actually are)
    Zone 7 Windows reed (must be done in series, because there is 3 i believe)

    I realized a week later. zone doubling!

    So i went back last night, turned zone doubling on via Feature 22 Segment 5 option 2, checked the zones for 5, 6, 7 They are set to 16 like all the PIRS except entry PIR
    But zones 5, 6, 7 keep flashing continously on keypad
    Any ideas?

    Thankyou in advance
    Charlie



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    If the zones a flashing they are unsealed, check that the magnets a there and line up with the reed switches.
    Use a multimeter to check the resistance of the alarm pair at the panel end wires.

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    Thankyou Secure,
    I thought i done something wrong programming to be honost
    Ill check the magnets in next couple days, and check the ohms on the cables for the 5 6 7 zones at panel.
    From memory, the resistor would be at the reed/pir side?

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    Normally at the reed / pir end.

    Otherwise it could be in the panel where it connects to the main board if it was done by a lazy installer. Not good practice.

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    Hi Secure,
    i went back to my brothers, and opened up the panel,
    Found 2 wires on zone 1 (which on doubling is zone 5) , but only 1 wire on zone 2,3,4 (zone doubling = 6, 7, 8)
    Which means that the keypad was labelled incorrect.
    Looks like there is no sliding door reeds, and the windows and laundry reeds are all connected in series on zone 5

    I reprogrammed zone 6 and 7 to disabled
    I checked the windows the magnet was missing on 2 of thew windows, so i put a magnet on both of them, and sure enough zone 5 stopped flashing
    Thanks very much for your help with this, much appreciated
    Also there was no resistors at the panel, except for zone 5 (which is the reed switches), so looks like the installer wasnt too bad in that case.
    However, may i ask for my own knowledge why its better practice to have the resistors at the PIR side. Is this so you can also wire in the tamper on a pir still with 4core ( blue, white, + red - black)

    Thanks for your time again secure, been a great help now and in the past

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    Best for resistor to be at sensor end to be more effective. Not just because of tamper. The resistor is also protecting the cable for shorts / open circuits.
    I can understand why resistor was put in panel on zone 5 for easy fault finding otherwise you would need to pull apart each sensor to check which had the resistor.

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    Thanks secure,
    i see what you mean.
    Im going to bug you a little more if thats ok
    Im actually looking at finally fitting off my alarm at my place (its been in the box for 2 years, sparky never gets his own stuff done lol)

    For a house would you normally wire in the tamper on the PIR?
    Ive been told to do 2 different ways
    Ive attached a couple of photos, could you have a look at tell me what you think, and benefits ands flaw of each way.. and what you would recommend
    Thankyou again


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    Only as per this pic


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    Thanks secure, ill wire them up the way u recommended

    After thinking about it, i finally understand the diagram with the 2 resistors. With the 2 resistors, its making the tamper a different zone by using the same cable as the resistor ratings being different would make 2 zones per PIR, Which means you will chew up alot of zones by doing it that way. 6 pirs would become 12 zones! There is a benefit in that way, cause you could have the tamper on 24h zone. But i think in domestic situation its not needed. With the 2 resistors/zones, it must be more for a commercial situation, so the tamper is on during the day when unarmed but the pir wouldnt be

    thanks again for your help secure

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