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    Porsche Cayenne has the battery under the drivers seat. A woman and daughter were asphyxiated on the highway here in FL when the battery overcharged and spewed hydrogen sulfide gas into the passenger compartment.

    Folks saw her pull over, checked the car and both were dead.

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    Prius brake job....


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    Goodgrief.... replace failed PCV in an Audi...


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    ...about the best example I've come across thus far =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wotnot View Post


    ...about the best example I've come across thus far =)
    what sort of car was that on ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VroomVroom View Post
    what sort of car was that on ?
    ...plural.... VW Lupo, the 1.25L in new Fiestas (and eco sport 1.6L), the ford/yamaha Zetec-S engine...Skoda fabia 1.2 three cylinder...there's more...

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    Not automotive, but relates to the title of this thread.

    The oven light wasn't working. Many "hints" from Ms Shred over the last couple of months that it needs fixing. It's a "Fratelli Onofri" thing that was already here when we bought the house. Typical Italian engineering - damn near impossible to clean etc. I'll have a little party when the rotten thing dies and we can replace it.

    I turned the power off to the stove at the switch on the wall, replaced the light globe, turned it back on and the light still wouldn't work. Cue the following:

    • Turned the light on in the second, smaller oven - it worked
    • Tested the old light globe with a multimeter - open circuit, as expected.
    • Removed the new globe - 340 ohms, probably a good globe
    • Put it back in in case I had cross threaded it or not screwed the globe in far enough - still no go
    • Put the second new globe from the pack of two in the oven. Still no go.


    At that point, I gave up, set the time on the oven clock and called it a day. I was about the walk away, when I turned the light on one last time. It worked!

    The oven light will not illuminate unless the clock has been set. The light in the second oven works regardless. I reproduced the "fault" by powering off at the wall again. WTF!!!???

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    some oven only work when the clock is set and that may include the ovenlight.
    All the ovens I repaired and know of ,the lightswitch is direct connected to the active,the main oven through the clock to enable you to use the timer.
    Hope this explains it.
    I had/have quite a few calls the oven doesn't work after blackouts,because the clock has to be reset.
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    Fark me....I was actually taught this long way back..."never buy the first model of a new car, because there's bound to be problems with it" ...but this takes it the next step beyond..



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    if a car maker buggers up occaisonally , you can say OK its the first model and there will be production tolerances and faulty components so you can forgive them a bit. If they make up for the issue and replace the faulty bits it can restore your faith in the brand. But when its like Ford , Audi , VW , BMW , Landrover and others who ignore the issue , refuse to fix it and even blame the customer well that is unforgiveable. My neighbour bought a new Ranger 4 years ago , it dropped one cylinder out on a short drive last year ( < 60,000klm ) and Ford tried to say it was caused by bad fuel quality , despite a whole workshop full of rangers all over the country with the same problem. Hope they go bust....

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    Quote Originally Posted by VroomVroom View Post
    if a car maker buggers up occaisonally , you can say OK its the first model and there will be production tolerances and faulty components so you can forgive them a bit. If they make up for the issue and replace the faulty bits it can restore your faith in the brand. But when its like Ford , Audi , VW , BMW , Landrover and others who ignore the issue , refuse to fix it and even blame the customer well that is unforgiveable. My neighbour bought a new Ranger 4 years ago , it dropped one cylinder out on a short drive last year ( < 60,000klm ) and Ford tried to say it was caused by bad fuel quality , despite a whole workshop full of rangers all over the country with the same problem. Hope they go bust....
    Also, when they did stuff up in times past, they kept fixing and improving things as new models of the same platform came out year after year, and all these fixes/improvements could be retro-fitted to the previous models --- now, from one M/Y to the next on the same platform, parts invariably are model specific and don't fit previous models...

    ....I like this nuance as well.....when petrol was cheap(er), and as manufactures tried to maximize their profits, reduce production costs etc etc....they moved to plastic fuel tanks...and kept devising ways to make the filler spout difficult to siphon fuel from the tank with a hose (help prevent fuel theft)...

    ...now, with petrol prices on the up and up, any thief can buy a cheap. brushless/cordless drill & stepped drill bit off ebay for less than $50, and simply drill into the plastic fuel tank to drain it's contents (think hilux with 80L tank full of 95RON which here is roughly $160 worth of fuel)...the outlay on the drill etc is recovered in one 'hit'...

    ...hold that in counterpoint wrt years ago, fuel tanks had drain plugs..it was useful for the removal of sediments/water from the tank -- during the 70's (and especially after the crude oil crisis of '73 & '78), manufacturers stopped including the fuel tank drain plug, allegedly to reduce fuel theft (but also to reduce costs)... crazy world =)

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    You only have to be an engine mechanic and watch the first five minutes of this to feel the hurt ~ watch it all for maximum pain...


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    [trying to convince myself].....like, I get it with putting the cam timing gear at the back of a high performance inline 6 ; it would reduce vibrational torsion/stress along the engine block...

    ....and like, I can sort of 'get it' when they put the starter motor under the intake manifold of a V8 ...ie; by the time you need a starter motor, quite possibly you need (plastic) intake manfold gasketa by then, or some other engine top end work done...

    This one though?....wtf would you put the starter motorin >inside< the bell-housing?....ffs....


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    They just want to keep it out of the water. What sort of car is that? (just so I know never to buy one!)
    I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lsemmens View Post
    They just want to keep it out of the water. What sort of car is that? (just so I know never to buy one!)
    Haha...I doubt you need to worry ~ 6litre W12 in a Bentley =)

    Audi A8's have a 14hour job time to replace starter (not in bellhousing) ...apparently the bentley arrangement is {ahem}...'easier'....go figure 8)

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    In the background on the hoist in the previous image I posted, I think it's one of these Lambo's ...

    @0:24 .....the look on his face is priceless ~ that is exactly why one buys one of these things ; what a truly gorgeous sounding mill B^)

    This guy's a mechanic, engine builder, so this is a down to Earth view of what's involved with owning one of these things....



    Btw, pretty good YT channel to follow if you're into engines =)

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    How about a $12 BMW part with a $1200 labor charge to fit it? -->

    Also....more to do with the modern design of car owners, as opposed to just the cars themselves....watch this YT channel and be afraid --> (you sometimes see AU/NZ stuff turn up there too =)

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