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    Bought a few low value eBay items of late, where the seller, in China or Hong Kong, has sent a message stating that they "noticed a quality issue with the sold" and would like to cancel the sale, refund my PayPal, and notify me when they get more stock of what I wanted. No financial loss to me in all cases.
    But it's happened three times of late, and wondering if it's a scam or just coincidence. And if it's a scam, to what end? Email harvesting?

    Anyone else observed this, or have any theories?



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    Quote Originally Posted by mitaux8030 View Post
    Bought a few low value eBay items of late, where the seller, in China or Hong Kong, has sent a message stating that they "noticed a quality issue with the sold" and would like to cancel the sale, refund my PayPal, and notify me when they get more stock of what I wanted. No financial loss to me in all cases.
    But it's happened three times of late, and wondering if it's a scam or just coincidence. And if it's a scam, to what end? Email harvesting?

    Anyone else observed this, or have any theories?
    It would be handy if you shared the link to whatever it was you bought the seller was referring to.

    Also, keep in mind with the current covid19 situation, that there's going to be many excuses touted to explain 'lack of supply' etc, but nobody in CN is going to talk about it being caused by covid19.

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    Better than having to fight to get a refund for the item never turning up..
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    Quote Originally Posted by mitaux8030 View Post
    Bought a few low value eBay items of late, where the seller, in China or Hong Kong, has sent a message stating that they "noticed a quality issue with the sold" and would like to cancel the sale, refund my PayPal, and notify me when they get more stock of what I wanted. No financial loss to me in all cases.
    But it's happened three times of late, and wondering if it's a scam or just coincidence. And if it's a scam, to what end? Email harvesting?

    Anyone else observed this, or have any theories?

    Yes, happened to me in the past a few times but not recently as I only rarely order from China through Ebay lately.
    Pretty sure they were legit as quality problems can come up, while the refunds were immediate. Could also be that they offered stock that was suddenly unavailable but don't want to admit that.

    If you are rightfully concerned about identity data mining, they not only get your email but also your full name address and usually phone number, then make sure you order from a seller with 1000's of feedback.
    I usually order my electronics components from the same group of reputable Chinese sellers who have even 100k feedback and lately I am ordering stuff directly from their stores like BangGood, TomTop, etc.
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    I'm not sure if the example you have given is some form of mining but I have seen some paypal and ebay spoofs where the buyers are conditioned by seeing legit emails from ebay and when they make another purchase with a scammer, they then spoof the legit email knowing the recipient might be expecting it and not check it and just click on the link.
    A lot of people will notice incorrect urls but some people may not especially if they login or name is used correctly making the email look very legit.

    It's something I would watch carefully and the first sign of trouble report it to ebay or paypal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mitaux8030 View Post
    Bought a few low value eBay items of late, where the seller, in China or Hong Kong, has sent a message stating that they "noticed a quality issue with the sold" and would like to cancel the sale, refund my PayPal, and notify me when they get more stock of what I wanted. No financial loss to me in all cases.
    But it's happened three times of late, and wondering if it's a scam or just coincidence. And if it's a scam, to what end? Email harvesting?

    Anyone else observed this, or have any theories?
    I have one seller I have bought from before , ask for an extra $5 for shipping and pull some other items from sale because of shipping rates. Due to Trumps tariffs and the CV travel restrictions, Chinese sellers are not getting the favorible postage rates they once had. It is disruptive for me because some items cannot be sourced elsewhere.

    I think your seller does not want to ship at the listed rate, caught off guard by the increased rates. The quality excuse gets them off the hook for not completing the transaction,

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    In my experience this generally happens when the sale has somehow become unprofitable. It could be due to mistake, supply problems, postage or freight costs (as per previous post) or other reasons. The last time it happened to me I'm sure it was because they had run out of stock and their new supply would be at a higher price. We have to bear in mind that many Chinese sellers operate under a very different set of commercial ethics which are totally unacceptable by our standards. We can and should demand that they adhere to our standards when selling to us.

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    RFI-EMI-GUY and DB44 are right on the money, it seems. Just looked at a few of the most recently cancelled purchases, and the sellers are now re-offering the items at 3x or 4x the cost I'd originally paid & subsequently refunded.

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    I got email from someone over in TW, and she tells me the chinese supply train is in disarray ~ I'd need concur, last item I bought off banggood from store CN, was for-filled by a Dubai ware-house.

    Things can become unprofitable very quickly - as I pointed out in the other ebay thread, we just recently saw the AUD gain about 10cents relative to the USD, and that saw a wave of price hikes wash across ebay, with something I was looking at for $78AUD, the next morning was at $102 'just like that'....and with the current state of play with covid19 etc etc, anything and everything is going to be weird out of that part of the world for a while.

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    The scams are getting more frequent, i got 2 yesterday supposedly from Amazon Prime about my card details being incorrect in my account.
    I don't have an amazon account so junked it right away, the idiots forwarded the same email a few minutes later.

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    Its not a scam.

    Its a sellers way of saying they have no stock, doing so they dont get a mark against their ebay seller status for advertising something they cannot deliver.

    Some sellers have hundreds of products, even thousands (im sitting at over 60K of products advertised), its impossible to know what the suppliers have run out of in their warehouse.

    Chances are the buyers are buying it from ebay because bricks and mortar stores are telling the buyer they cant get it, they find it online, buy it only to be told some excuse as to why they cant deliver it.

    Saying there is a problem with the goods is one way to come out of it smelling of roses....just refund the buyer, and zero the stock qty available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loanrangiel View Post
    The scams are getting more frequent, i got 2 yesterday supposedly from Amazon Prime about my card details being incorrect in my account.
    I don't have an amazon account so junked it right away, the idiots forwarded the same email a few minutes later.
    Happened to a mate yesterday.....
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