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    I was reading about helmets and thought, would you not be better putting on your helmet before the crash???
    From here:


    Do Motorcycle Helmets Save Lives?

    Chances of death or a significant injury reduce by up to 30% when you have a helmet on after a motorcycle crash. At a minimum, every motorcyclist should have a helmet are they save lives.
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    My mate would have no face of he didn't wear a helmet. Front and entire visor scratched

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    Quote Originally Posted by lsemmens View Post

    Chances of death or a significant injury reduce by up to 30% when you have a helmet on after a motorcycle crash.
    I see nothing wrong with that wording.
    If the helmet stayed on after the crash then it helped.

    If it was strapped too loose and came off ...then hello highway to hell.
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    Awww c'mon Fester, play the game!

    That helmet did a bloody good job Leroy!!! Can you give us some background, and the aftermath?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Fester View Post
    I see nothing wrong with that wording.
    If the helmet stayed on after the crash then it helped.

    If it was strapped too loose and came off ...then hello highway to hell.
    Total agreement with Fester here...It's true!!

    In an accident on the highway head on with a bike once....the rider was a mess, but I had a hell of a time getting him to keep his helmet on until the ambulance arrived. The rest of his body was worse than that helmet Leroy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lsemmens View Post

    That helmet did a bloody good job Leroy!!! Can you give us some background, and the aftermath?
    It sure did.

    A mate came around the bend in the distance towards the bridge and prob hit it at an angle (he doesn't remember). All I saw was the end as he and his bike was sliding and came to a rest this side of the bridge. He was out cold and in the middle of the road. I had to get him off the road and fortunately he came too. Slowly moved off the road and picked up the bike and moved that.

    After he started talking I thought something isn't right. Asked him the usual what day it is, where have we been etc and he had no idea. No phone reception so I rode about a km up the hill in the direction we were heading and called an ambulance. All good when we caught up at the hospital. Obviously had concussion but a few hours later he came good and was kept overnight in Bairnsdale Hospital for the night for obs.



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    Quote Originally Posted by lsemmens View Post
    I was reading about helmets and thought, would you not be better putting on your helmet before the crash???
    From here:


    Do Motorcycle Helmets Save Lives?

    Chances of death or a significant injury reduce by up to 30% when you have a helmet on after a motorcycle crash. At a minimum, every motorcyclist should have a helmet are they save lives.

    Ugh... m'kay. First thing is, that article has little relevant context for Australia, because it's been pitched-written to a seppo audience, where the wearing of helmets is optional.

    The next thing I'd take the piss out of, is how poorly it is wrtten -anyway-, and the fact the author seems fit to write thousands of words about the products, and devote this much attention to the question "Do motorcycle helmets save lives?", surely reflects how important the issue is to the writer of this POS.. (quoted in full);

    Chances of death or a significant injury reduce by up to 30% when you have a helmet on after a motorcycle crash. At a minimum, every motorcyclist should have a helmet are they save lives.
    The mere fact you have to unravel the typos in 2nd sentence, speaks volumes for the journalistic quality...as in, muted, sound off.

    The -first- sentence, the crux of your discontent, is I agree, an appalling example of how not to use English, and that said you need keep in mind the intended audience of this article speak/use American-English, and wording formals can differ. However, the example of how poorly it is written, is exampled here in replies from others, wherein they've (logically) construed the meaning in the literal tense...ie; after you've had a big off, it's best to leave your brain-bucket on (and/or not have anyone remove it if you're unconscious) ... to the more existential interpretation of if you've had a big endo, and your skid-lid is still on, that's a thumbs up and very often the safety device has saved you from death, or other debilitating/disfiguring injuries.

    Going by the article example, which demonstrates the writer's penchant for saying things wrong in the strive to foist advertisement worth, I believe the first sentence should've been written so (had the author been paying attention =)

    "[The] Chances of death or a significant injury after a motorcycle crash, reduce by up to 30% when you have a helmet on [as compared to not wearing a helmet, which is allowed in some states]."

    As for the worth of wearing a helmet, my personal experience is I would not be here typing this now, if not for the fact I was wearing one...and I hasten to point out that was four times at least, and one instance was in a rally car when we put the escort off the side of a hill at speed. Around the property and local farms etc, I'll ride ag-bikes & quads around without a helmet on, but I will back my 5+ decades of rider's experience to do that in very safe fashion - it's not hard to be sensible, yeah?

    IMHO, the whole article is ostensibly pointless and misses the point -- you buy whatever certified helmet you want, in whatever colour/design that appeals to you, and in 5 years time OR whenever the helmet is subject to a real live crash test (whichever occurs first =), REPLACE IT with a new one. How hard is it? =)

    Yer brain is worth protecting, it captures vivid memories ~ a drunk lowlife behind the wheel of a green HZ holden turned blind across the path of both me (curbside lane) and a semi in the right lane beside me (so HE saw where the fukka came from, I didn't), and in that instant the semi driver hit the picks out of the blue, for no apparent reason, and locked all his axles,I was just about to go 'WTF?' and there was this HZ right in front of me - there was only time to just squeeze the front brake a bit harder before impact (I was already light on the brakes with the semi flatspotting tyres beside me), and the bike's front wheel hit just behind the holden's left front & into the front guard. This turned the steering head hard right, and reefed the grip out of my left hand, and I flew over the top of the handlebars, and went helmet first into the car's windscreen about 30cm inside the left A-pillar..this shattered the glass before my body got involved, and peeled a hole in the glass, right across it's width until my right inside shoulder hit the A-pillar on the driver's side...which then flicked me up into the air and into a waiting power-pole helmet first again, to finally fall to the footpath and shatter my left wrist, just for effect =) Fortunately, this all happened right outside a hospital, so I didn't bleed to death waiting for an ambulance (you can't stem the bleeding from a wide open chest wound) ; somewhat unfortunately, the blood I received there that saved my life, was also tainted with the hepatitis C virus, which went on to haunt me for another 30+ years.

    Every time I've come off a bike, there's been telltales on the helmet to remind me not how lucky I've been, but more demonstrative of exactly *why* you wear the thing in the first place ...then you go out and buy a new one. I remember one guy who used to keep all his helmets, as reminders of how many times he'd cheated death =)
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    I have come to realise that the helmet only makes a difference in the recognition of the body in the casket and the ambulance drive dont loose his lunch after the crash All crashes are caused none are accidents as a accident cannot be avoided and you can avoid the crash by not riding a bike but then the insurance companys would go out of business so RIDE ON !!!
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    The OP was a tongue in cheek comment! The worst I've ever done to myself is lost a bit of skin when I hit oil on a corner one night.

    Not long after I got my licence, we were out bush on our dirt bikes when I missed the culvert on the side of the road. It did not miss me! I hit it head on at about 50kph. My first point of contact with the ground was the chin guard on my full face helmet, so, yep, it saved my life. Mate who was ahead of me thought I was dead, but as he turned around the air started turning blue as I was cursing the bloody big hole in the ground. I got up and rode the bike back to his place on full left lock just to keep straight (Forks bent to buggery). This was day one of our weekend, so, stripped the forks apart, ant "straightened" them using two bits of wood and a sledge hammer. On full compression they'd bind a little bit, but I could cope with that for the weekend. He took them to work with him next week and put them on a dial press (he was a fitter & turner) and found that our bush repairs were only a couple of mil out. My only injury was a bruise on my right leg. I've been lucky over the years.

    My attitude when riding is that everyone on the road is an idiot and is going to do something stupid. So far the only time I've ever been seriously injured is when I was stationary at a police road block in a tin top!!! A drunk parked on top of us at 100kph whilst driving an F truck.
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