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    Quote Originally Posted by Au_radio View Post
    Given Dominion voting systems are a gov state contractor hired by each state , have repeatedly declined to partake in any meetings in any state ,

    Why ?

    Surely they could clarify some points ?
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    Dominion’s system is secure.

    Representatives from many county's in the US said they were satisfied with the machines and had little or no problems during the November election.

    Trump is a con man. And, he's good at it.








    "All baseless claims have been debunked by election officials, subject matter experts and third-party fact checkers. No evidence whatsoever has been offered to support claims that there was a systemic problem with vote-counting machines. A hand recount of all paper ballots in the State of Georgia completed on November 19 verified that machine vote totals were reliable and accurate. Certified results in Arizona, Georgia, Florida, Michigan, Nevada, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan plus other states all validate the accuracy of official tallies."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnno View Post
    Dominion’s system is secure.

    Representatives from many county's in the US said they were satisfied with the machines and had little or no problems during the November election.

    Trump is a con man. And, he's good at it.








    "All baseless claims have been debunked by election officials, subject matter experts and third-party fact checkers. No evidence whatsoever has been offered to support claims that there was a systemic problem with vote-counting machines. A hand recount of all paper ballots in the State of Georgia completed on November 19 verified that machine vote totals were reliable and accurate. Certified results in Arizona, Georgia, Florida, Michigan, Nevada, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan plus other states all validate the accuracy of official tallies."
    Quite a few districts/ and a few states prohibited the use of these dominion voting systems,

    This is just one ..


    Documents within link with explanation.

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    Remember, they have counted & re-counted individual votes by hand in many places and the totals are always the same as the machines. No Fraud Found.

    The amount of governors, secretary of states, county election managers & staff to commit organized fraud so as to get Biden in. And, they continue to maintain the lie? All orchestrated by a geriatric? Amazing or what?

    Biden 306 - 232 Trump... Way to far ahead to make any difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnno View Post
    Remember, they have counted & re-counted individual votes by hand in many places and the totals are always the same as the machines. No Fraud Found.

    The amount of governors, secretary of states, county election managers & staff to commit organized fraud so as to get Biden in. And, they continue to maintain the lie? All orchestrated by a geriatric? Amazing or what?

    Biden 306 - 232 Trump... Way to far ahead to make any difference.
    That’s not what’s in play or question ,


    It’s the fact votes were counted in contradiction of state laws , ie without poll observers present ( not allowed in some districts) , counting without signature verification as required in some states , etc etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Au_radio View Post
    That’s not what’s in play or question ,


    It’s the fact votes were counted in contradiction of state laws , ie without poll observers present ( not allowed in some districts) , counting without signature verification as required in some states , etc etc

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    It keeps getting better.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnno View Post
    Dominion’s system is secure.

    Representatives from many county's in the US said they were satisfied with the machines and had little or no problems during the November election.

    Trump is a con man. And, he's good at it.








    "All baseless claims have been debunked by election officials, subject matter experts and third-party fact checkers. No evidence whatsoever has been offered to support claims that there was a systemic problem with vote-counting machines. A hand recount of all paper ballots in the State of Georgia completed on November 19 verified that machine vote totals were reliable and accurate. Certified results in Arizona, Georgia, Florida, Michigan, Nevada, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan plus other states all validate the accuracy of official tallies."

    I would not believe any of that lot, might all well ask CNN, the CISA boss has all ready got the flick and Dominion are missing in action since their no show for as question and answer session for one of the state legislatures after this all kicked off. Why are they on the run?

    Whats more I run locked windows embedded but I still think nothings secure if its in a windows box with any IO, else why the never ending scare campaign about security updates?

    Its sounds like they might morph from one name to another with time and place with the same core code in all variants, if so, they not too popular in the South Americas, the Philippines either, issues in Aus as well. The more you dig on them the more interesting it gets, but being the opposite to the media line I assume there's something true in some of it. I wonder if they are if they in Gitmo with no internet now?

    Venezuela seem to know what to do with their stuff


    see also NSW 2015 Aust.


    And they are active in Vic, Chairman Dan no less.


    In a Faraday cage it might be secure but thats hardly practical, so if it can be mal configured by bad actor and sloppy operators its not fair to flame the equipment providers. Innocent till proven guilty, at least till you add politics, but we need to wait for the truth. Dont hold you breath on that.

    Personally i would be inclined to take the lead from Texas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reschs View Post
    It keeps getting better.




    Not so sure about all of that but surely the titles are just click bait, even something in the first one for the womens weekly maybe? Any bet its a mix of fact and bulldust. I think the author is right about an impending civil war, both sides seem to have thrown down the gauntlet. As Yamamoto said “I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.” This might be the final outcome of what went on in the past years and brought Trump to the presidency in the first place. Cant blame Trump for the hatred, its not new, look at Baby Bush/Gore, they booed Bush on the way to the Whitehouse.

    But best might be yet to come, Its not as quiet as the media would like us to believe, and yes the second link, they have filed one or two cases against facebook today. CNN might have trouble coming too. At least they have scoped valid targets this time. See CNN files there is more here.


    No doubt troubles coming, and they are preparing for it.

    ADSB is revealing lots of domestic military and government bird activity, lots of heavies around the eastern cities, the rendition planes have been getting around, also last week I see 3 known rendition Gulfstreams, refueling at bases not airports along the route doing to and fro to Hungary and Greece, now that's really close to Dominions programing department in Serbia. They seem to have been in the hangar last 5 days, else flying black with another tail number.





    Maybe they are just short on ouzo. All in all its a good stress test for old Joes heart before he starts on Jan 20.
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    All the babble about voter fraud is now hogwash down the drain.
    Fact is the president has not been voted yet.


    In the US & A-holes that thinks they are democratic, only 538 people actually can vote.
    In the 2016 election 7 didn't vote for the party they were nominated for, they were faithless.
    Back then it was somewhat like a game for Trump, today it is about a whole lot more.
    The possibility of Trump going to jail is real if he is not re-elected!


    Trump and his disgusting republicans just need to bribe 38 electors.
    A much more manageable task than to fake 100,000s ballots.
    The media says that is not likely. The media has got things wrong many times before.


    In some states faithless electors just have to pay a fine, so Trump just has to pay a higher bribe.
    In other states they may get arrested but if Trump becomes president this way he can pardon them and himself for the crime.
    Of course he will be impeached again but he and his corrupt republicans will just be laughing about that, just like they did before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Fester View Post
    All the babble about voter fraud is now hogwash down the drain.
    Fact is the president has not been voted yet.


    In the US & A-holes that thinks they are democratic, only 538 people actually can vote.
    In the 2016 election 7 didn't vote for the party they were nominated for, they were faithless.
    Back then it was somewhat like a game for Trump, today it is about a whole lot more.
    The possibility of Trump going to jail is real if he is not re-elected!


    Trump and his disgusting republicans just need to bribe 38 electors.
    A much more manageable task than to fake 100,000s ballots.
    The media says that is not likely. The media has got things wrong many times before.


    In some states faithless electors just have to pay a fine, so Trump just has to pay a higher bribe.
    In other states they may get arrested but if Trump becomes president this way he can pardon them and himself for the crime.
    Of course he will be impeached again but he and his corrupt republicans will just be laughing about that, just like they did before.
    Frightening to think he could simply bribe 38 people and Pardon them at same time. Trump is a mafia Donald. I hope this does not come to pass because it will be a huge fraud upon the country. Folks voted in good faith. The numbers are the numbers, let's move on like many of us did in 2016 when Trump somehow managed to get all those swing states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFI-EMI-GUY View Post
    Frightening to think he could simply bribe 38 people and Pardon them at same time. Trump is a mafia Donald. I hope this does not come to pass because it will be a huge fraud upon the country. Folks voted in good faith. The numbers are the numbers, let's move on like many of us did in 2016 when Trump somehow managed to get all those swing states.

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    I think we all agree on one point guys, thank god we live in Australia, not perfect but better than the alternatives
    If you live in the States, you may be able to immergrate
    There is a fine line between "Hobby" and "Madness"

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    Quote Originally Posted by allover View Post
    I think we all agree on one point guys, thank god we live in Australia, not perfect but better than the alternatives
    If you live in the States, you may be able to immergrate
    WOT???? And bring their problems over here???That's why they have Mexico and Canada. Let 'em go there.
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    Default Trump Vs Biden.

    I’ve personally made this screenshot from a verified Twitter account belonging to a US congressman.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Au_radio View Post
    I’ve personally made this screenshot from a verified Twitter account belonging to a US congressman.
    Trump also posts on a verified Twitter account... and most of his posts are lies, so that post doesn't prove its factual.

    Again... lots of propaganda posted, but none presented and substantiated in the numerous court cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Au_radio View Post
    I’ve personally made this screenshot from a verified Twitter account belonging to a US congressman.
    LOL, that was fake.
    This is the @realscreenshot:

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtv View Post
    Trump also posts on a verified Twitter account... and most of his posts are lies, so that post doesn't prove its factual.

    Again... lots of propaganda posted, but none presented and substantiated in the numerous court cases.

    Bang on MTV, your dead right, there is so much propaganda from all sides for so long, its near on impossible to filter it for yourself to be sure of a fact, too much opinions of opinions as fact. That's why Gobbels put a radio in every German house back in the 30's, today its far worse.

    But have you noticed trump the only one active now? I understand busy Joes trying to get his gig going, keep Bernie and his squad out of it and get on with things and make out Trumps not there any more and fair enough. But whats become of the Clintons, Obama, all very quiet, even Pelosi, always plenty of bashers lining up for the camera but now its like its left to the media to bash Trump. They have waited 4 years to get the boot right in and now their chance to do it, and now they are, well where are they?

    But clearly their election tally arrangements and processes arn't worth a tuppenny stuff and that's feeding this propaganda war now.

    Never mind lawyers claims and affidavits, just look at the Atlanta video for what you can see, 4 yobos alone with all those ballots and the machines and computers, maybe each with a key to the door and the knows admin passwords. I willing to bet the ethernet jackfields are accessible, they are in there with handbags, mobile phones, and no government security oversight at all in the middle of the night. Slip a wifi box on the jackfield, turn on your phone ap and your in and so is the rest of the world. Probably every tally room in the country is much the same. It would be hard to prove any foul play, but it would be a damn side harder to prove there could not be any.

    I dug real deep into Dominion et al and the machines etc for days, I could not give a rats who won or lost, just the technology interested me. Banks use the same technology to count cash, cash deposit machines and ATMs and there is no plus minus on a bank note at the atm. The machines and software will be totally secure and correct, but not deployed in this setup. Better security at a tarts teaparty.

    I am not saying they did this but what is to stop one of those 4 from setting the machine to some vote weighting, running the same 50 ballots through it 20 times and put it back to 1.0 afterwards, tweak the log file and all the time making the intranet open to the world via a mobile phone AP. Next day someone drops the same number of ballots off at the warehouse probably imported from China. Possibly delivered that night by a certain plane they were looking for.

    They need proper clean rooms, 24/7 rf sweeping, security clearances and security like an airport, no phones and handbags past the door, enter and leave with empty pockets. Proper security to verify all ballots in the door, countersign the manifests and log it. One admin knows the super user login name, the security knows the password, external security from some external 3 letter agency who are brought in, unfriendly and intimidating like the secret service. Vicpol maybe?

    Also the machines should be stored securely on a military base between elections, not some down town council warehouse. While its only a data entry terminal, and they have 10s of thousands of them but its good idea to destroy cast off ones so they don't turn up on ebay for peanuts like this one.



    Maybe its rigged maybe not, I doubt they could ever work it out. We wait enduring propaganda and bluff and see who wins, and what happens between now then could be interesting. It might be better than a full on chook fight!

    But I don't think the multiple columns of Globemaster C17's and C130 hercs up to 12 long going into Nevada then going black for 2 hours, then start dispersing but still some there now as I witnessed on the ADSB last night is a good omen for any lawbreakers in the US, especially under federal laws seeing they have re enabled firing squads and hanging recently. Don't forget the executive order of 2018, and revisions on Obamas EO before that. Whoever becomes president on 20th Jan might have their hands full because I don't think they flew something in the order of 2,500 metric tones of covid vaccine out of Las Vegas on a saturday night. Probably just an exercise, a very short one.

    I will turn down the tele volume and wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allover View Post
    I think we all agree on one point guys, thank god we live in Australia, not perfect but better than the alternatives
    If you live in the States, you may be able to immergrate
    What migrate from a nut house to a police state?

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    Don't disagree, but have a few hesitations

    The only problem i have with that clip is
    1. The machine is dated by the software as 2013
    2. Bought on line, is it discarded hardware, ie out of date/not fit for purpose
    3. Clip is dated 2018, have the machines updated in the mean time to address his concerns?
    4. He did not say it was a new machine

    IMO, that the makers would have been aware of this clip and would not leave them selves open to criticism by not rectifying said complaints
    There is a fine line between "Hobby" and "Madness"

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