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    Chemistry does not discriminate, it adheres to it's own elemental laws ~ those laws do not coddle the stupid & unthoughtful, and often take advantage of accidents caused by the same adjectives.



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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_m_54 View Post
    I absolutely agree, and commend you on such a restrained reply. Some of the "biassed and uninformed" comments I would class as totally out of order, but fully expected from those particular members.
    I'm glad that you have that opinion. Why? Because you can.....

    When or if the Karens take over, that may not be the case....
    The fact that there's a highway to hell and a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic flow.

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    We can all be intolerant and hypocritical from time to time, and I don't exclude myself from this. It is a very human failing. But quite frankly I find the use of labels such as bigot unhelpful. They carry the imputation that all of the so-called bigots opinions are tainted by irrationality and are not to be taken seriously. I do not place George in this category. The way to deal with these opinions is to confront and discuss them, not call the person who holds them a bigot and move on. Who knows, you may find out that you don't have a monopoly on the truth after all.

    As for the main topic, I simply don't know the circumstances at this stage, but am always sceptical of news reports in this type of situation. At this stage conspiracy theories abound, as they usually do when facts are in short supply.

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    Oh look a dumpster fire ..... and I arrived late and forgot to bring some marshmellows.

    The first I saw of this somebody sent me a video (the one from the balcony) with no message or context while I was at work. In the first few seconds I saw are good size mushroom cloud and wondered wow, something made good size bang there. But then I started to see the brown smoke and commented to a friend on the phone that was a LOT of Nitrogen Dioxide happening there and this was a nitrate fire and the doing the video should get the fvck outta there because shit is about to get a whole lot worse. Oops, too late. The few minutes I thought he had is now a few seconds to run inside and get away from the windows.

    My next comment was, "DANG! -That's a prilled amonium nitrate fire. I can't wait to see some dash cam footage of that."
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    in one of the videos you can see fireworks going off in the smoke cloud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eeprommemory View Post
    in one of the videos you can see fireworks going off in the smoke cloud.
    Is that blue tool thing on the ground a 22 cartridge RamSet hammer?

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    Dozens of bags of fireworks were stored in the same hangar as thousands of tonnes of ammonium nitrate at Beirut’s port and may have been a decisive factor in igniting the explosive chemical compound that fuelled Tuesday’s huge explosion, a former port worker and other sources have told the Guardian.


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    Quote Originally Posted by enf View Post
    I'm glad that you have that opinion. Why? Because you can.....

    When or if the Karens take over, that may not be the case....
    I don't understand what the Burmese have to do with it, but my comment was about the posts by the two, very obvious and small minded, serial bigots and racists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnno View Post
    Dozens of bags of fireworks were stored in the same hangar as thousands of tonnes of ammonium nitrate at Beirut’s port and may have been a decisive factor in igniting the explosive chemical compound that fuelled Tuesday’s huge explosion, a former port worker and other sources have told the Guardian.

    I personally don't buy the fireworks story for a second.

    Just look up Fire works Factory fires and then Ammo dump Fires on YT and see the way they burn and which one most looks like the Beirut Fire.
    My bet is there were Munitions of some sort stored in or near there.

    The original gubbernint story said it was a fireworks factory, now it's bags of fireworks stored there. Wonder how much more the story will change?
    I doubt whatever it is, the real story will come out . Some of course believe the media never lies let alone gubbermints so we will be fed whatever they would like us to believe.

    The soft of head and heart media were probably happy this over shadowed the 75th anniversary of the Bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki which would have been today. I can imagine the guilt tripping that would have gone on over that from the leftard press. History will record 3 Big blasts in the one week on the calendar.

    Seems the Lebbo Gubbermint has turned down offers for an international Investigation and told it's own people they want a definitive answer into the cause of the incident in 4 Days.

    Nothing like a rushed investigation to get to the truth of a matter. Especially if you have already told investigators what you want the official findings to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_m_54 View Post
    I don't understand what the Burmese have to do with it, but my comment was about the posts by the two, very obvious and small minded, serial bigots and racists.
    Points for the Burmese comment....clever.....

    The rest is just your opinion, and I think a rather narrow and bigoted one.....but as I said, you are entitled to it in my view.....

    The race card?....odd....aren't the Lebanese classified as white caucasian?
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    A day to remember.................

    The fact that there's a highway to hell and a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic flow.

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    "The claim that fireworks were being stored in the same warehouse as the ammonium nitrate appears to be confirmed by phone footage, apparently filmed by a port worker"

    Like eeprommemory, I also saw video footage that shows fireworks going off.. /time will tell
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    Quote Originally Posted by enf View Post
    A day to remember.................


    And all they were hoping for was it wouldn't rain, The hairdresser and Makeup artist wouldn't run late and the photos would turn out nice.
    After all the planning and organising, doesen't seem much to ask for does it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnno View Post

    Like eeprommemory, I also saw video footage that shows fireworks going off.. /time will tell
    Yeah, I did too. I just don't believe they were fireworks, I think they were some sort of ordinance/ ammo.
    Time MAY tell, but I'm not confident of it telling the truth is all. :0)

    Either way, I guess it's pretty irrelevant what the initial fire was. I would say that was the minor stupidity. Ammo or fireworks on it's own, wouldn't have even made the news services.

    Having the AN there made it a world historical Disaster.

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    Now where are the palistine hamas going to get their propellant for there rockets from The darker side is saying thats why it was kept there for every bombmaker to get the free supply . an diesel and water nice propellant unstable but cheap

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    Quote Originally Posted by enf View Post
    Points for the Burmese comment....clever.....

    The rest is just your opinion, and I think a rather narrow and bigoted one.....but as I said, you are entitled to it in my view.....

    The race card?....odd....aren't the Lebanese classified as white caucasian?
    Haha yes, my reference to the Karens was as equally ridiculous and irrelevant as yours. As for the rest of what you think, for what it's worth, you are also entitled to that.....

    But we digress... We should get back to the name calling, outlandish bigotry, racism and just plain ignorance, that this thread like so many others, has descended to.... yet again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_m_54 View Post
    Haha yes, my reference to the Karens was as equally ridiculous and irrelevant as yours. As for the rest of what you think, for what it's worth, you are also entitled to that.....

    But we digress... We should get back to the name calling, outlandish bigotry, racism and just plain ignorance, that this thread like so many others, has descended to.... yet again.
    In your self righteous opinion...
    The fact that there's a highway to hell and a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic flow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_m_54 View Post

    But we digress... We should get back to the name calling, outlandish bigotry, racism and just plain ignorance, that this thread like so many others, has descended to.... yet again.
    ......That you clearly want to perpetuate and continue with so you have something to grandstand and put shit on others for not agreeing with your only one correct way of thinking viewpoint..... as usual.

    Build a bridge and get over it already!

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    Quote Originally Posted by enf View Post
    In your self righteous opinion...
    Please....don't perpetuate this.

    Put it in the past and move on.

    This sort of behaviour is precisely why I generally tend to avoid this section of the forum.

    Civility costs nothing.

    Agree to disagree, but be nice about it.

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    here watch the explosion in 4K you can see and hear the fireworks.



    ok so how did this shit happen it is easy no conspiracy needed.

    MORONS yes that is all you need.

    store fireworks MORONS.
    store 2,750 bags of 1000kg nitroprill MORONS.
    do some grinding / welding or smoking near fireworks MORONS.
    what do you get?.

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