The old Australia Day chestnut

[bob_m_54]

I don't see why, but that's neither here nor there to me. The 28% will still complain. They don't WANT a day, merely to wallow in guilt that doesn't exist.

Besides the women and the vote would crop up....

Because that's when Australia became Australia, and not just and no longer a British Colony.

[enf]

Because that's when Australia became Australia, and not just and no longer a British Colony.

Dedicated republicans would argue Australia still isn't Australia...

We could go back and forth all day, but the 28% is still 28%. I'm assuming that you are a) one of the 28%, and b) believe in democracy. You can just wait until the rest of us die as the Aboriginal spokesman journalist on the ABC iterated the other day....or persuade the 72% otherwise....

[bob_m_54]

Dedicated republicans would argue Australia still isn't Australia...

We could go back and forth all day, but the 28% is still 28%. I'm assuming that you are a) one of the 28%, and b) believe in democracy. You can just wait until the rest of us die as the Aboriginal spokesman journalist on the ABC iterated the other day....or persuade the 72% otherwise....

See, there you go assuming again. I really don't care which day is celebrated, but to use British Colonisation Day, as the focal point for an Australian identity, just seems a bit weird to me.

[enf]

See, there you go assuming again. I really don't care which day is celebrated, but to use British Colonisation Day, as the focal point for an Australian identity, just seems a bit weird to me.

Yes, I made an upfront assumption. Incorrectly apparently, although a rather trivial one....

[lsemmens]

See, there you go assuming again. I really don't care which day is celebrated, but to use British Colonisation Day, as the focal point for an Australian identity, just seems a bit weird to me.

Go back and check your history, British colonisation day WAS NOT the 26th January. The 26th is our INDEPENDENCE day. i.e. we were no longer regarded as a colony!

[bob_m_54]

Go back and check your history, British colonisation day WAS NOT the 26th January. The 26th is our INDEPENDENCE day. i.e. we were no longer regarded as a colony!

Go back and check your history... You never had an independence day, that was just a movie...

[bob_m_54]

And when it comes down to it, are we still a British Colony, or a sycophantic Yanqui Colony?

[enf]

And when it comes down to it, are we still a British Colony, or a sycophantic Yanqui Colony?

Naah, we are just Australia. I'd love a poll of Australians on that one.

[bob_m_54]

Go back and check your history, British colonisation day WAS NOT the 26th January. The 26th is our INDEPENDENCE day. i.e. we were no longer regarded as a colony!

And... the quintessential thing about that date, was when Govener Phillips raised the flag and declared the British Penal Colony of New South Wales as a British Colony..

[bob_m_54]

Naah, we are just Australia. I'd love a poll of Australians on that one.

Yeah, the answer may have swayed over the years.. But I'm still betting... most don't have a clue.

[bob_m_54]

In the pandemic, we are different.

[enf]

In the pandemic, we are different.

I'm with you there....at least I think I am.

a scared population can be made to do almost anything....

[lsemmens]

Go back and check your history... You never had an independence day, that was just a movie...

I apologise, I read something recently that was obviously (in hindsight) incorrect. My mistook! That said, INDEPENDENCE was not meant as a reference to the stupid movie, but as a reference to our loosening of the British bonds.

[DB44]

And this is a date worth celebrating. It is worth contemplating the things that may have happened if Australia had not been colonised by the British. We now live in a great nation with as much freedom as anywhere on the planet. We have democracy and democratic institutions. We have the rule of law. We have freedom of speech and of the press. None of these things are perfect, of course. But we seem to be doing pretty well on all of them. The US is a great democracy, but ours is better, at least to date. Our legal system is not perfect but is as good as anywhere in the world. We do enjoy freedom of speech, though subject to some necessary (defamation, inciting violence etc.) and some unnecessary (18C and similar provisions based on the concept of simply offending someone, cancel culture etc.) restrictions.

We've done pretty well thanks to the British heritage of this nation. Not perfectly, but pretty well. Let's keep celebrating this.

[allover]

Ok guys, read this email i received,then tell me what is wrong with it, hint i think some have hit on it above


Some interesting information about Australia Day.





Subject: AUSTRALIA DAY
>
>
>
>
> AUSTRALIA DAY
>
> Facts about Australia Day
>
> Our Education system is not competently advising our children !!
>
> Don't expect the media to educate you that's not part of their agenda. Australia Day does not celebrate the arrival of the first fleet or the invasion of anything.
>
> Captain Cook did not arrive in Australia on the 26th of January. The Landing of Captain Cook in Sydney happened on the 28th of April 1770 - not on the 26th of January 1770.
>
> The First Fleet arrived in Botany Bay on the 18th of January.
>
> The 26th was chosen as Australia Day for a different reason; however, Captain Cook's landing was included in Australia Day celebrations as a reminder of a significant historical event.
>
> Since the extravagant bicentenary celebrations of 1988, when Sydney-siders decided Captain Cook's landing should become the focus of the Australia Day commemoration, the importance of this date for all Australians has begun to fade.
>
> Now, a generation later, it's all but lost.
>
> This is because our politicians and educators have not been doing a good job promoting the day. Our politicians have not been advertising the real reason for Australia Day, and our educators have not been teaching our children the importance of the 26th of January to all Australians.
>
> The media, as usual, is happy to twist the truth for the sake of controversy.
>
> In recent years, the media has helped fan the flames of discontent among the Aboriginal community. Many are now so offended by what they see as a celebration of the beginning of the darkest days of Aboriginal history, they want the date changed.
>
> Various local Councils are seeking to remove themselves from Australia Day celebrations, even refusing to participate in citizenship ceremonies, and calls are going out to have Australia Day on a different day.
>
> The big question is, why has the Government allowed this misconception to continue?
>
> Captain Cook didn't land on the 26th of January. So changing the date of any celebration of Captain Cook's landing would not have any impact on Australia Day, but maybe it would clear the way for the truth about Australia Day.
>
> The reality is, the Aborigines in this country suffered terribly under the hands of British colonialism. This is as much Australia's history as the landing of the first fleet, and both should be remembered, equally. Both should be taught, side by side, in our schools.
>
> Australians of today abhor what was done under British governance to the Aborigines. We abhor what was done under British governance to the Irish and many other cultures around the world. So, after the horrors of WWII, we decided to fix it.
>
> We became our own people.
>
> On the 26th of January 1949, the Australian nationality came into existence when the Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948 was enacted. That was the day we were first called Australians and allowed to travel with Passports as Australians.
>
> Under the Nationality Act 1920 (Cth), all Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders born after January 1, 1921, gained the status of British subjects. In 1949, therefore, they automatically became Australian citizens under the Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948.
>
> Before that special date, all people living in Australia, including Aborigines born after 1921, were called 'British Subjects' and forced to travel on British Passports and fight in British wars.
>
> We all became Australians on the same day!
>
> This is why we celebrate Australia Day on the 26th of January!
>
> This was the day Australians became free to make our own decisions about which wars we would fight and how our citizens would be treated. It was the day Aborigines were declared Australians.
>
> Until this date, Aborigines were not protected by law. For the first time since Cook's landing, this new Act gave Aboriginal Australians by inference and precedent the full protection of Australian law.
>
> Because of this Act, the government became free to help Aborigines, and since that day much has been done to assist Aboriginal Australians, including saying 'sorry' for the previous atrocities done before this law came into being.
>
> This was a great day for all Australians!
>
> This is why the 26th of January is the day new Australians receive their citizenship. It is a day which celebrates the implementation of the Nationality and Citizenship Act of 1948 - the Act which gave freedom and protection to the first Australians and gives all Australians, old and new, the right to live under the protection of Australian Law, united as one nation.
>
> Now, isn't that cause for celebration?
>
> Education is key! There is a great need for education on the real reason we celebrate Australia Day on the 26th of January. This reason needs to be advertised and taught in schools. We all need to remember this one very special day in Australia's history, when freedom came to all Australians.
>
> What was achieved that day is something for which all Australians can be proud!
>
> We need to remember both the good and the bad in our history, but the emphasis must be the freedom and unity all Australians now have, because of what was done on the 26th of January 1949, to allow all of us to live without fear in a land of peace.
>
> Isn't it time all Australians were taught the real reason we celebrate Australia Day on Jan 26th?
>
>
>

[bob_m_54]

Ok guys, read this email i received,then tell me what is wrong with it, hint i think some have hit on it above


Some interesting information about Australia Day.





Subject: AUSTRALIA DAY
>
>
>
>
> AUSTRALIA DAY
>
> Facts about Australia Day
>
> Our Education system is not competently advising our children !!
>
> Don't expect the media to educate you that's not part of their agenda. Australia Day does not celebrate the arrival of the first fleet or the invasion of anything.
>
> Captain Cook did not arrive in Australia on the 26th of January. The Landing of Captain Cook in Sydney happened on the 28th of April 1770 - not on the 26th of January 1770.
>
> The First Fleet arrived in Botany Bay on the 18th of January.
>
> The 26th was chosen as Australia Day for a different reason; however, Captain Cook's landing was included in Australia Day celebrations as a reminder of a significant historical event.
>
> Since the extravagant bicentenary celebrations of 1988, when Sydney-siders decided Captain Cook's landing should become the focus of the Australia Day commemoration, the importance of this date for all Australians has begun to fade.
>
> Now, a generation later, it's all but lost.
>
> This is because our politicians and educators have not been doing a good job promoting the day. Our politicians have not been advertising the real reason for Australia Day, and our educators have not been teaching our children the importance of the 26th of January to all Australians.
>
> The media, as usual, is happy to twist the truth for the sake of controversy.
>
> In recent years, the media has helped fan the flames of discontent among the Aboriginal community. Many are now so offended by what they see as a celebration of the beginning of the darkest days of Aboriginal history, they want the date changed.
>
> Various local Councils are seeking to remove themselves from Australia Day celebrations, even refusing to participate in citizenship ceremonies, and calls are going out to have Australia Day on a different day.
>
> The big question is, why has the Government allowed this misconception to continue?
>
> Captain Cook didn't land on the 26th of January. So changing the date of any celebration of Captain Cook's landing would not have any impact on Australia Day, but maybe it would clear the way for the truth about Australia Day.
>
> The reality is, the Aborigines in this country suffered terribly under the hands of British colonialism. This is as much Australia's history as the landing of the first fleet, and both should be remembered, equally. Both should be taught, side by side, in our schools.
>
> Australians of today abhor what was done under British governance to the Aborigines. We abhor what was done under British governance to the Irish and many other cultures around the world. So, after the horrors of WWII, we decided to fix it.
>
> We became our own people.
>
> On the 26th of January 1949, the Australian nationality came into existence when the Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948 was enacted. That was the day we were first called Australians and allowed to travel with Passports as Australians.
>
> Under the Nationality Act 1920 (Cth), all Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders born after January 1, 1921, gained the status of British subjects. In 1949, therefore, they automatically became Australian citizens under the Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948.
>
> Before that special date, all people living in Australia, including Aborigines born after 1921, were called 'British Subjects' and forced to travel on British Passports and fight in British wars.
>
> We all became Australians on the same day!
>
> This is why we celebrate Australia Day on the 26th of January!
>
> This was the day Australians became free to make our own decisions about which wars we would fight and how our citizens would be treated. It was the day Aborigines were declared Australians.
>
> Until this date, Aborigines were not protected by law. For the first time since Cook's landing, this new Act gave Aboriginal Australians by inference and precedent the full protection of Australian law.
>
> Because of this Act, the government became free to help Aborigines, and since that day much has been done to assist Aboriginal Australians, including saying 'sorry' for the previous atrocities done before this law came into being.
>
> This was a great day for all Australians!
>
> This is why the 26th of January is the day new Australians receive their citizenship. It is a day which celebrates the implementation of the Nationality and Citizenship Act of 1948 - the Act which gave freedom and protection to the first Australians and gives all Australians, old and new, the right to live under the protection of Australian Law, united as one nation.
>
> Now, isn't that cause for celebration?
>
> Education is key! There is a great need for education on the real reason we celebrate Australia Day on the 26th of January. This reason needs to be advertised and taught in schools. We all need to remember this one very special day in Australia's history, when freedom came to all Australians.
>
> What was achieved that day is something for which all Australians can be proud!
>
> We need to remember both the good and the bad in our history, but the emphasis must be the freedom and unity all Australians now have, because of what was done on the 26th of January 1949, to allow all of us to live without fear in a land of peace.
>
> Isn't it time all Australians were taught the real reason we celebrate Australia Day on Jan 26th?
>
>
>

A parliamentary research paper by Margaret Harrrison-Smith notes that Tasmania celebrated “Foundation Day” on January 26 from 1888. Victoria and Western Australia also celebrated the date in the early 1900’s and in 1930 the Australian Natives’ Association suggested an annual “Australia Day” celebration.

A year later Victoria first adopted the name ‘Australia Day’ and since 1946, January 26 “has been recognised throughout Australia as Australia Day and a public holiday taken on or around that date,” according to the research paper.

In September 1948, then-immigration minister Arthur Calwell told federal parliament that when the Nationality and Citizenship Act became law “it will be proclaimed on Australia Day, the 26th of January, 1949”.

[VroomVroom]

I'm not looking forwards to the day that China plants its flag on our shores ,thanks to twits like Dan Andrews and the leftards. Australia day will be irrelevant and the abos will have nothing to complain about .....