I want to start a controversial thread(to keep this forum a bit alive) and am interested in your opinion on this matter with the submarines and our place in the world now on top of our unwillingness to commit to climate change which was already overshadowing us.
The news that France is removing diplomatic relationship from Australia because of us breaking a 'business deal' comes as a major shock to me!
That is what you do when you expect a war with a country.
Despite all our conflicts with China they still at least have embassies here.
While I am actually pleased that we finally dumped these useless overpriced submarines that Abbot proposed and Turnbull contracted,
both PMs who I have little respect, particularly the former, I was not aware until now that we actually ordered perfectly good Nuclear subs
and insisted on having them converted to 19th century diesel technology which led to the cost blowout.
This typical conservative Australian (stupid) mindset has suddenly changed, obviously pressured by the US who wish to have better access to the Indo Pacific if they feel the need to start a war with China.
Something that would be extreme madness and the USA does not have a good record of winning any wars since WW2.
I don't even want to go into details about what I have read about superior war tech and strategies both China and Russia have compared to the US,
which may or may not be true but even if half true, it makes us look like idiots... cough, US army ad...
Just imagine where the US stand when China destroys the US satellites and the war ships have to rely on the stars to navigate and find their targets and all the drones are grounded.
The next confrontation will also be about cyber wars, where China seems to have the upper hand pretty much everywhere.
What I don't understand is why didn't we just amend the contact with the French and take their Nuclear subs unaltered?
That would have also saved a lot of cash and probably finished before 2040, a date I doubt we would be needing them anymore.
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