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    I am not sure what avenue to take with dealing with this.

    There is a disruptive kid that lives a few houses down from where i live who deliberately bullies my dogs, it doesn't matter if i am in the yard they do it anyway.
    this behaviour ranges from poking the dogs through the fence to calling out to them to make them bark.

    when i bring the dogs inside then he proceed to come to the front yard to make the dogs bark then he will go around to the back to make them bark again.

    He never seems to be in school, he is hanging around the neighbourhood all throughout the day.

    two days ago i witnessed him beating up another kid in the street, when someone threatened to call the police he just shouted "go on, do it. they can't do anything to me"

    his mother came over one day with him and claimed my dog bit him but when i said ok i will review the security footage she took off so i would say there was more to that story than they where telling

    I am fairly sure his mother is a drug dealer so that is likely why nothing is being done about his behaviour

    what can be done?

    I have done a lot of work to my house and i would rather not have to sell up and move for the sake of this rat



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    When he comes in the yard, let the dogs out.
    Always try to offend at least one person snowflake a day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bazzy View Post

    I am fairly sure his mother is a drug dealer so that is likely why nothing is being done about his behaviour

    what can be done?
    Call Crime Stoppers.

    Point a camera towards their house if you can. In NSW it is legal as street fronts are public areas but check your area.
    There are security cameras with optical zoom. They wouldn't notice that.

    As for moving away, my unruly neighbour has just breached his AVO threatening my wife and caught on camera.
    He is now finally being prosecuted.
    We have had enough of his shyte.
    We are NOT moving away.
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    his mother came over one day with him and claimed my dog bit him
    I take it you've 'had words' with the youth before this, to prompt this kind of accusation against you/your canines?

    I am fairly sure his mother is a drug dealer
    What makes you speculate so? For example, seeing a constant coming/going of males, might mean the mother is a home-based hooker =)

    A lt depends on which state/suburb/town you live in -- you haven't indicated whether or not you've had a yarn with your local coppers about the situation, using nicely worded lines like 'does video from my security cams which incidentally caught vision of the goings on of any use to you?'....but for mine, first step is talk to them, if only to find out what you're up against, and how far...legally...you're allowed to go. You likely want to find out how many other folks living around you, are also pissed off about the same sort of behaviour from the same family/household members ; numbers matter here, the more taxpayers that voice the same complaint, the greater the volume of it's worth.

    ...then...you try find a spot on 60minutes =)

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    looks like a good idea
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    Sounds like he may have a good suntan based on the "they can't do anything to me"

    I'd be spraying the wasps on your fence when he tries it again

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    Family services might be interested if he is a minor and not at school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mi_tasol View Post
    Sounds like he may have a good suntan based on the "they can't do anything to me"

    I'd be spraying the wasps on your fence when he tries it again
    You mean colour advantaged?

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    I'd do exactly what wotnot said, have a talk with the local cops, you'd be surprised at how helpful they can be in these situations.

    Be careful, as these people will provoke you until you show them your ugly side, then play victim when you go there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wotnot View Post
    I take it you've 'had words' with the youth before this, to prompt this kind of accusation against you/your canines?
    What makes you speculate so? For example, seeing a constant coming/going of males, might mean the mother is a home-based hooker =)
    I have been told by other people in the area she is.

    Quote Originally Posted by mi_tasol View Post
    Sounds like he may have a good suntan based on the "they can't do anything to me"

    I'd be spraying the wasps on your fence when he tries it again
    no he is white, however the kid he assaulted was of indigenous decent.

    Quote Originally Posted by lsemmens View Post
    Family services might be interested if he is a minor and not at school.
    I have considered this option he has been taken away before but somehow ended back.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny View Post
    I'd do exactly what wotnot said, have a talk with the local cops, you'd be surprised at how helpful they can be in these situations.

    Be careful, as these people will provoke you until you show them your ugly side, then play victim when you go there.
    I will speak to the local police, i believe he is known to them as i have seen them there before.

    I just wish that if this is the life path he is choosing the police could preemptively imprison him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bazzy View Post
    I will speak to the local police, i believe he is known to them as i have seen them there before.

    I just wish that if this is the life path he is choosing the police could preemptively imprison him.
    Not saying do nothing but be careful with this kind of people. They might poison your dog without being noticed too.
    The only method I saw working in this situation is to scare the kid away so the road to your place is forgotten.

    You also can film how the kid is bullying your dog and show this to his mum. She might realizes if you present the footage to police or RSPCA they can be fined few thousand dollars and his mum might deal with the kid herself.

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    Hmmm... Most of the time, such 'parents' couldn't give a shit!!
    Even the Police will often have their hands tied... Obviously, camera footage is paramount,
    then take them to Court, but first go there for a Protection Order. It won't always stop them,
    but gives you a legal footing which goes a long way afterwards!! And sue for damages!!

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    You have to think the way they do ,
    They probably don’t give a dam about any laws , and some see it as a ‘notch’ on the belt ..

    Expect regular reprisals if they remotely suspect you are behind and calls to authorities,

    Have an exact same situation near me , are we neighbors?!
    but not too close to worry about , they have caused a lot of crap , and I mean a lot to immediate neighbors to the point of 4 houses selling up within 3 months recently.

    I keep the peace with them by just waving as a gesture as no one else does , makes them feel loved !

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    difficult situation , id be inclined to find sneaky ways of getting back at the scum. one druggo neighbour in our street had his car windows smashed a few times late at night till he got the message and buggered off.
    you could always speak to the duty OIC at the police station to see if there is anything they can do like increased patrols or something. I'd be logging incidents on Policelink too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Au_radio View Post
    You have to think the way they do ,
    They probably don’t give a dam about any laws , and some see it as a ‘notch’ on the belt ..

    Expect regular reprisals if they remotely suspect you are behind and calls to authorities,

    Have an exact same situation near me , are we neighbors?!
    but not too close to worry about , they have caused a lot of crap , and I mean a lot to immediate neighbors to the point of 4 houses selling up within 3 months recently.

    I keep the peace with them by just waving as a gesture as no one else does , makes them feel loved !
    Hmmm... I understand why a lot of people just don't want to get involved. (And afraid of repercussions!).
    There are other avenues for neighborhoods to jointly form petitions including with evidence(s). And contrary to some people's
    feelings about the Police, they will NEVER divulge what was said or by whom, during their investigations.

    And I *might* ignore them, but would not go so far as to make them feel *loved* hahaha...
    To the O.P. Again, I would get a legal Restraining Order first... NOT because that will 'magically' stop them from further abuse etc.,
    (as those sorts just don't care...), but then it is a MAJOR FOOT-IN-THE-DOOR LEGALLY, as it is now previously on Record, and the
    Police/Courts will come down 10x harder & actually arrest them for ignoring it!, as well as proceed to a new/actual Conviction!!
    (Yes, half my family was/is in the Police force, and I know all about when there hands seem tied!)
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    Police, they will NEVER divulge what was said or by whom, during their investigations.
    NOT always! Wife reported a domestic whilst I was interstate some years back, told the cops she was alone so please don't identify her. Cops were seen to attend source of domestic and then promptly walked across the road to our place to talk to missus. Fortunately, nothing came of it, but I was NOT impressed, nor was she!
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    I would get a legal Restraining Order first...
    Pffft, nah...(well, caveat I'm not savvy with all state/territory laws)..but generally speaking protection/restraint orders are only applicable to DV and other issues of the like, and usually adults (people of legal age who can respond to the court).

    With juveniles, you have to seek a 'peace and good behaviour order'






    NOT always! Wife reported a domestic whilst I was interstate some years back, told the cops she was alone so please don't identify her. Cops were seen to attend source of domestic and then promptly walked across the road to our place to talk to missus. Fortunately, nothing came of it, but I was NOT impressed, nor was she!
    That's law -- your wife had become the complainant by reporting, the police -have- to speak to her. If they displayed a lack of tact (after attending the incident), it could be they made an 'informed decision' after attending the property of the DV, and concluded there was no threat to your wife (and going by your report, if this is what they did....they were right =) This is why 'crime-stoppers' is always a good action -- it affords anonymity (as does the dob-in-a-druggie reporting line).

    There are other avenues (civil) before one starts paying money out ; the P&C here drew up a petition about a drug dealers house and presented it to police (that got them moving fast, due to the possible threat against other children). Also, I know one bloke who worked out a good angle, by complaining to the real-estate agent handling the property, who evicted the tenants thereafter (apparently the housing commission will respond likewise if one of their properties is being used for drug dealing).
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    OH shit, I think I'm that kid.
    I have so many ways to make dogs bark. I could drive my neighbours for several blocks, around the twist and they would have no idea of the cause.

    Ok, so how would I stop me?
    Now I'm laughing because I just realised how wars get started.
    I don't have a legal solution for this one. I specialise in terrorism.
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    Gee trash, you really are looking for a visit from ASIO, with talk of weaponizing Uranium in the Nuclear power thread, and now talk of Terrorism here.....It was nice knowing you.
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    I generally think that those people are not as stupid as common people give them credit for. Normal, no sorry, intelligent people understand context.

    A functional psychopath might just go out and slap the kid on the head and tell him to knock it off or he'll get another.
    Reality is the kid probably has other delinquent cousins. Did I say this is how wars get started?

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