In my 50 years I installed more ceiling fans than you can afford to buy ,so be a ggod boy, go in in the bathroom ,get a towel and dry your self behind the ears.
NoAIR (10-12-22)
Well Martec have told me there sending a new fan out soon before Christmas, possibly the last of 1000 odd Fans I have install or replace in my Electrical life. yeah!!! I will install it and let you know and we can put stop this threads because of a cranky old TNUC that possible has installed a lot of them and the thought of a FAN INSTALL has made him sick.
Lol.......we'll see if their word was worth the reading =)
....as sold in Malaysia...
...as sold in Argentina...
...as sold in Malaysia.....
.... as sold in Australia....
....as bought from China.
I'm reasonably sure their supplier is (found it on made-in-china.com =)
No respect for older people:Shows your intelligence.
I have always said to the Wife as you wake up at 2AM the fan is on LOW and you are cold. I was thinking to add a timer on the critical Fans but hard to do on a simple 3 speed AC Fan but if I had a remote and a control module that allows you to turn the fan off after 3 or 4 or 6 hours of use it would be good. Yes these new fans on LOW generate some good air circulation and if the room temp is lower than normal it would be easy to got a cold like I have done before on the start or the end of Summer.
I installed the last 6-7 years VENTAIR in our house and lots of customers.
Everybody is happy,super quiet and on low is sufficient.
I prefer 3 blade fans over 4 or more blades.
My 5 cents worth.
From what I can see, you hurled the first insult.
Mods don't read every single post... got a problem, just report it, that alerts us.
Nobody forces members to read threads or discussions they are not interested in, so just ignore such threads.
Play nice, the lot of you.
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gulliver (15-12-22)
I always play nice =) I doubt there's anything wrong with this thread...has an appropriate topic line in the right forum section, so I would wonder why anyone would think otherwise. Actually....the topic line is perhaps a little undone, in as much as it should mention (Martec) ...in brackets just like that, because it's never going to be just that brand ...rationale: over 90% of electric ceiling fans are made in China 8) However, you stick the brand name in the topic line, so search engines pick up the hit, and this is a good way to ...sully... the customer support provided by that company, because essentially you can't directly blame them for the manufacture...m'kay? Believe me, there's just as much a chance martec themselves got ripped off by their ODM supplier, because it is known practice for (some) ODMs to 'cut corners' during production, 'behind the buyer's back' as it were. This does not absolve martec's customer/warranty support responsibilities in any way, don't get me wrong here ...I'm not going into bat for them <grin>....it's just that I know what it's like, as a business, to have to open up every single box of a MOQ 5000 shipment, to ensure every single item you've been provided has been made to the specification you provided, on which your warranties etc etc rely. It's more than a pita, it's a nightmare...end of the day, martec are probably as pissed at their ODM, as you are of them...lol...
If they're sending you another fan, do you get to keep the noisy old one?
Personally, right...I would've already pulled the motor apart, looking for answers. That'll be due to the fact I consider I have a good chance of finding the -actual- cause of the noise, and what the appropriate remedy is, if any =)
gulliver (15-12-22)
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Yes I agree maybe member Gulliver took me the wrong way so Im sorry for that but at the same time he should not tell all members on this thread to stop posting all because he doesn't want to hear more on this subject mainly like me I"M SICK OF INSTALLING THEM but we all forget the $$$$$$$$ we have made. So all chill out, I will tell when the NEW FAN arrives IF IT ARRIVES and how it runs.
They have said nothing about returning the old one.
YES yes yes in the new year I will pull the sucker apart and inspect the collection of the coils. Look on youtube for this and apparently they can have up to 8 to12 coils some have heaps more and I can't see any varnish impregnating on them.
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For me I'm like a dog and when I got a bone in my mouth I don't like to give up even if its very difficult to get it right like my 5G on my Satellite as I stuck and spent over $1000 to fix the issue and at the same time I did want to lose the TX from 3700 to 3800 or 4100 to 4200. Yes for me it worked using 2 X 5G filtered LNB's but a Chapparal type of feed horn. Touch wood it still works ok today for the Frequencies in the effected range.
That'll be when things get really interesting here ~ do note the coil windings in that YT vid -have- been vanished ...not very well mind you ~ when he's levering the windings out of the stator, all those flakes you see falling out is actually the (dried, hardened) varnish they used.
Of course, there's a plethora of examples in YT about this issue -->
Looking forward to the teardown.... =)
I forgot to reply to this, but answer was a simple as
What's funny about that, is the huge variance in price ~ the moment you see that, immediately deduce this component is being knocked-off and China being shonky capacitor central of the world....the common sense math ain't hard here.
By that, I mean... me being 60something years old ... I know there's only one way to get a 'good' capacitor of this type ~ make it yourself, they're nothing special, and the potting compound largely responsible for their fire safety rating is easy enough to buy. Then you can named brand PP film caps and over-rate them to 300VAC or more, and you end up with something identical to a CBB61, that lasts a very long time....I just checked on RS, it'd work out at $10 each... (you'd probably kit up for 10 or more units, as you'd like to use up all the potting compound once opened, and the smallest tube of the stuff would do 10~15 units at a guess). The other obvious alternative, was 'once upon a time' you could buys caps as part from brand name suppliers, but this is largely moot now as 90% of these fans/motors are coming out of China...along with the caps. Soon...even now to be sure... you'll be seeing ceiling fans out of India ; maybe their caps will be better...or not... 8)
...this revolves back to freakee1's comment of having to replace the cap up at the motor ~ you can bet it's subject to the same shonkiness.
Alas, it's a world of convenience where we are encouraged to buy, instead of using our skills.... but you get that =)
Softek2 (17-12-22)
While on the subject of ceiling fans , id like to mention the issues ive been having with HPM branded fans in recent years. 5 years ago we bought 4 x HPM metal blade fans from Bunnings which came with an optional remote control / timer module as well as the rotary wall switch. The remotes are IR types and rely on the IR sensors being in view of the remotes. Upon install 2 reciever modules didnt work at all so Bunnings swapped them for new ones. The fans worked perfect using the rotary switch so i knew the fans themselves were fine.
fast forward a couple of years and we have had 3 remote transmitters fail and 2 more reciever modules fail. There are 2 failure modes - either the fans fail to start or they only run at full speed . HPM sent me 2 new module kits under goodwill ( an updated type ) but since then they have both karked it as well. The module kits were originally priced at $40 , now they are $80 and no longer stocked at Bunnings.
I refuse to fit any more HPM modules so i just bought some universal RF style kits from ebay and they are working fine. I dismantled the dead modules but could not see anything obvious or where smoke had leaked out so i guess its down to faulty components.
im not buying anything HPM in future except for maybe power points
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