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    Default How can you find a Satellite that all transponders are off (BeaconFrequencies)

    Like the title says, how can you find a Satellite that all transponders are off (Beacon Frequencies)
    I remember recently I found where you can get the BEACON Frequencies for a given Satellite but you guessed it I cant find it know where I got this from. Can any member guide me to the site. By the way I have GT Media Sat Finder 2 that has the Spec function and other can I use this.
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    Found them on Sat beams. Typical, search for one hour and found nothing but as soon as I post on Austech I find them.

    They are 4197.75, 4198.25, 4198.75, 4199.25, 4199.75, 11451.00R, 12200.25R

    So how can I use my GT Media Sat Finder 2 to find this Satellite that all transponders are off ATM.

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    Some satellites have broadband/data frequencies active that might not be listed on Lyngsat or other web sites. These can be used to lock a satellite.
    Why do you say that there are no active frequencies on this satellite? The satellite at 169E is active most days, no problem with finding that one.

    Also, you are incorrect about no active frequencies, there are plenty 24/7 active data frequencies on this satellite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pommie View Post
    Some satellites have broadband/data frequencies active that might not be listed on Lyngsat or other web sites. These can be used to lock a satellite.
    Why do you say that there are no active frequencies on this satellite? The satellite at 169E is active most days, no problem with finding that one.

    Also, you are incorrect about no active frequencies, there are plenty 24/7 active data frequencies on this satellite.
    I did not know that 169 was totally inactive like what Lyngsat says . It would be good to have a Transponder that on 24/7 so I can lock this Horizon Satellite on. My luck today it will be totally OFF. Find out Soon after I come back from shopping.
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    Found Horizon 3A. The First thing I did I took the 2.4M Prime Focus dish from 160 to 172 and two minute later I had pictures from Eutelsat 172 and I knew that Horizon was only 3 Degrees away and it took about 5 minutes until I found it but I made sure I was not on a SIDE lobe that effect prime focus dishes and started to load all transponders on my GT Media Sat Finder 2 and got about 15 odd Transponders but none of the loaded on the Finder 2 and two of them had signal level of 88 and Quality of 95, yes strong enough but nothing would load. Some had signal level of 78 and Quality of 35 some little more and some less. Played with the SKEW I turned the Skew from 160 Skew position to looking in front of the Dish anti Clockwise about 10 to 15 Degrees and left it there for today's work.
    What is the issue with have a Strong and reasonable Strong and some weaker Transponders that wont load. All could be data?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr 672A View Post
    What is the issue with have a Strong and reasonable Strong and some weaker Transponders that wont load. All could be data?

    All could be data at the time you scanned.
    If you have a DVB card such as a TBS6983 or a TBS6903 they will lock quite a few of these data frequencies in either CrazyScan or EBSpro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pommie View Post
    All could be data at the time you scanned.
    If you have a DVB card such as a TBS6983 or a TBS6903 they will lock quite a few of these data frequencies in either CrazyScan or EBSpro.
    I got EBS Pro going last night for the new Satellite and most of that Transponders on 169 are 16ASPK or 32ASPK and that alone tells me the 32ASPK are data and some of or possible the most 16ASPK are Data too.
    I use EBS Pro. Smart DVB (really Stable) Crazy Scan, and have a paid version of useless DVB Dream that crashes every time I look at it. Also use Transedit 4.2.4. My card is a TBS 6904SE and use 4 ports on it

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    At least three feeds today on 169E, one active now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pommie View Post
    At least three feeds today on 169E, one active now.
    ON my 2.4M Prime Focus dish on 169 I found at least 13 Transponders. WOW some were strong like Level= 88 Quality 95. It have lock and loaded the dish. Many Thanks

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    Can you post a screenshot of your ebs scan here for reference Frequencys etc since it has so many spot beams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apsattv View Post
    Can you post a screenshot of your ebs scan here for reference Frequencys etc since it has so many spot beams.
    Ok will do

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    Horizon 3A Monday the 17th of September using a 2.4M dish. Please note using a 1.2M had less transponders on. Freq 11339 is horse racing. So far anything that has a Modulating of 8PSK can be interesting sometime more on the Weekend.

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    You have a cross polarisation issue. Some frequencies are scanning in on both horizontal and vertical polarity, presumably strong data frequencies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pommie View Post
    You have a cross polarisation issue. Some frequencies are scanning in on both horizontal and vertical polarity, presumably strong data frequencies.

    Yes I have noticed this but tried to get around the issue but so far I'm failed. Yes some feeds are strong and bleeding through. I even tried attenuation 3db 6db....could be a LNB issue, I don't get this on my 1.2M Offset on the same satellite. Any recommendations?

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    I was slightly in a hurry, when I get time I will go outside with my GT Media Finder 2 and see if I get rid of the few that are cross poled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr 672A View Post
    Horizon 3A Monday the 17th of September using a 2.4M dish. Please note using a 1.2M had less transponders on. Freq 11339 is horse racing. So far anything that has a Modulating of 8PSK can be interesting sometime more on the Weekend.


    The only thing I have found is that 98% of frequencies dont match what is on Lyngsat.com for Horizons 3A.

    The only frequency I have scanned is 11339H 7498 5/6 DVB-S2 8PSK and this is on Lyngsat.

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    I have a method of my Madness
    I have 5 copies of H and V Transponders but at the same time I don't want to reduce them too much say 1 or 2 copies of H and V ONLY of Transponders at the same time reduce the power on the Transponder that I want as I want that transponder to work FULL BORE as I have notice on this Large Dish if you tweek the LNBF to balance the Transponders you weaken the one you want that has been on one polarity ONLY (No Copies) and consider this bird uses Zones I want to get the Best that I can gain on this Zone Lottery.

    Need more testing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr 672A View Post
    The only thing I have found is that 98% of frequencies dont match what is on Lyngsat.com for Horizons 3A.

    The only frequency I have scanned is 11339H 7498 5/6 DVB-S2 8PSK and this is on Lyngsat.
    What step mode are you using in EBS? Epsilon sub 1mhz?

    Its quite a normal variation to be 1 or 2mhz out e.g different tuners and different lnbfs in most cases feeds on H3E use 9 MHZ slots, Sr 7500 etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by apsattv View Post
    What step mode are you using in EBS? Epsilon sub 1mhz?

    Its quite a normal variation to be 1 or 2mhz out e.g different tuners and different lnbfs in most cases feeds on H3E use 9 MHZ slots, Sr 7500 etc
    On the 2.4M Prime Focus dish using EBS I'm using 2MHz steps, Tried 5,4,3, 2, and 1 and 1 is the lowest I have used. 1 takes to much time to scan so settled for 2MHz. I have notice testing on Optus D2 at 160 Degrees last year If I set the LNBF so I don't get to many copies of V and H (About 30% of the range) it lower the Signal and Quality on the transponder I want "eg" L 78 Q 58 when I adjust it to minimize cross poll I will get as a example 76 or 78 Level and Q at 52 and at 52 Quality (lower)and all I need is to have a cloud above me and spit some rain I start losing the Signal at around 46-48. Now that Modulation of 8PSK FEC 3/4.
    It make a big difference from Quaitlty from 58 to 52 when I get wiped out. Now this was Optus D2 and since I'm a newbie on Horizon I will have to do more test. By the way I have 2 LNBF (one spare) a prime focus Ku LNB (not common) and use both and both have similar symptoms. For me I think the LNBF is responsible for this. Could be wrong about this.

    My 1.2M offset is not a issue
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    Does your tuner device not support blindscan mode 2? in EBSpro? a bscan mode2 scan should take only a minute or 2

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