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    Default Are Sellers And Gammas The Same?

    this question i will find out saturday 1/11/08. from what i have been told from this seller chances are they are the same card just different gam files used ie not public details



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    Your probably correct and no-one would dispute the CARDS ARE PROBABLY the same. The OS used on the cards is DIFFERENT. The OS (Programmed) searches for certain information and 'computes' it. If the 'gam' , 'gos' file etc is not written in the SAME FORMAT the OS requires, then Whammo! No Go.

    The orig 'Gamma' require an ext 'gam' the sellers requires a 'gos'. The the files then have to correct.
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    From who will you find this out?

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    guy from melbourne. a so called seller. as soon as we try and program a gamma with his sellers details i will post my findings. everyone is so secretive it will all be revealed saturday afternoon one way or the other.

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    well, if you want it to work after Saturday PM I wouldn't be posting it in this forum, just PM it to me and I'll make sure the right people get to verify it for you

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    its about time we found out if gamma s are the same as sellers cards. thats all im gonna post no details of files etc. still want my sellers card to work -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saintaholic View Post
    Your probably correct and no-one would dispute the CARDS ARE PROBABLY the same. The OS used on the cards is DIFFERENT. The OS (Programmed) searches for certain information and 'computes' it. If the 'gam' , 'gos' file etc is not written in the SAME FORMAT the OS requires, then Whammo! No Go.

    The orig 'Gamma' require an ext 'gam' the sellers requires a 'gos'. The the files then have to correct.
    My opinion is that the OS is definitely different as they have different command sets.

    I also strongly suspect that the cards are different. It is widely rumoured (?accepted) that the sellers cards are 7272's (and I have no information to disprove this), but I believe the original public gammas use a different microprocessor which is not an Atmel.

    If that is the case, then it would be impossible to run one card's OS on the other.

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    i doubt very much that it will but hey who am i to say yeah or neah

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    considering that the files have been around for quiet some time now and the public cards have been dead for a long while don't you think that people who have had access to the sellers bins and loaders would not have tried already.

    I personally believe it will not work due to the different os on the two cards but also because i have heard roomers that there are different version sellers and that they have their own regional bins for the OS IE: sellers card from Europe will not load sellers bin from auss but then again thats a roomer.

    but if it does work and i say that tounge in cheek great but I will only believe it when i see it personally myself i have heard the same as what you are stating before and a certain member stated he did it lalala etetetetccc so i said fine i sent him a gamma and said program it and send it back funny thing is he sent a card back saying he couldn't do it because they lost the files etc but even more so it was so funny that it wasn't my card he sent back as i had marked it and need to be looked at with the right conditions to know if it was the same origional card

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    Is it just the new bin file you are going to program to the card? if so that wont change anything. Like everyone says you will need to change the OS then put the new bin file on it.

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    only gamma's that sellers sell are true seller's gamma's. gamma's that are not sold by a seller are not seller's gamma's. If your gamma was not sold by the seller who sells gamma's, then it is not a sellers gamma, just a non seller sold gamma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fernbay View Post
    Don't dismiss the possibility that the wool is being pulled over our eyes either
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    Quote Originally Posted by porkop View Post
    only gamma's that sellers sell are true seller's gamma's. gamma's that are not sold by a seller are not seller's gamma's. If your gamma was not sold by the seller who sells gamma's, then it is not a sellers gamma, just a non seller sold gamma.

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    My head hurts after reading that.

    Just post the OS, that should keep a smile on our faces.

    Im with fandtm666 on this, if it does work all the better but i doubt it.

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    dont think the wheel has been reinvented here
    the algo should be the same or very similar
    it will only be the write commands that are diferent
    has anybody logged the data written to a sellers card

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    Quote Originally Posted by porkop View Post
    only gamma's that sellers sell are true seller's gamma's. gamma's that are not sold by a seller are not seller's gamma's. If your gamma was not sold by the seller who sells gamma's, then it is not a sellers gamma, just a non seller sold gamma.

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    A sellers card is no a gamma it is a diferent type, i have seen sellers details try to be loaded onto a gamma with 1.04 os and even an old Select card but no go and yet grab a blank sellers card the details load sweet. It's just getting cards.
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    what i think personaly.. i believe the seller, and the gamma are all part of the at90sc family..fact is gamma card is a at90sc7272c card.. and rumors ... the sellers was formaly a at90sc6464c card.. which would explain the slight tint on the plastic (factory).. they even tryed to confuse people by moding the atr to that of a AT88SC0204C.. however i also believe the os on both card would have to be close as both emulate irdeto.. also you can check the chips with the light test.. just my opinion..

    correct me if im wrong.. cheers all
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Dogg View Post
    what i think personaly.. i believe the seller, and the gamma are all part of the at90sc family..fact is gamma card is a at90sc7272c card.. and rumors ... the sellers was formaly a at90sc6464c card.. which would explain the slight tint on the plastic (factory).. they even tryed to confuse people by moding the atr to that of a AT88SC0204C.. however i also believe the os on both card would have to be close as both emulate irdeto.. also you can check the chips with the light test.. just my opinion..

    correct me if im wrong.. cheers all
    I think G-Dogg is on the money here with his statment, but in say that no one is going to veritfy it as sellers do not want their info public as they will lose dollars from their pockets. but as i have always said screw the sellers and the ones that are worried they will lose their free tv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Dogg View Post
    ..fact is gamma card is a at90sc7272c card..
    I disagree! The public gamma doesn't look like an Atmel chip!

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