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    Default Open Cabling Licence / Registration - Work prospects?

    Currently qualified as a healthy, semi intelligent male with 2 hands I have been looking into upping my skill level with a piece of paper to say I am capable of more and would like more money for it.

    So I have been looking at getting an Open Cabling Licence / Registration ticket thingy.
    I am capable of all this kind of stuff, but at certain times recently it would have been beneficial to actually have the qualification.

    So my questions are:
    Is it worth it? It's gunna cost me $700 and 5 to 6 days off work.
    What kind of employment / work / job prospects can I expect thereafter?
    Can I earn more money per hour if I have this?
    What other courses should I look to expand into afterwards?
    ie. Optic fibre, Structured Cabling, etc..

    Here is the link with the course:

    CAB-01 is the one I am looking at.

    Any other info from anyone who has blazed this trail would be helpful...

    Speak up please!!

    And thanks in advance.



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    CAB-05 - Occupational Health and Safety
    CAB-06 - Electrical Principles
    CAB-07 - Time Management
    Hand and Power Tools
    NTE002
    CPD=175
    QUEENSLAND RESIDENTS - THE COST OF THIS COURSE IS $415.00

    u have to do a few other courses beforeyou can do that course

    im pretty sure the tafe, if your in nsw would have equivalent courses...

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    I enquired about that.
    I'll translate:
    CAB-05 - Occupational Health and Safety - Is Green Card. I have green card.
    CAB-06 - Electrical Principles - Basic knowledge of how electricity works in a circuit. Previous experience running cable. TV antenna / Sat cable qualifies.
    CAB-07 - Time Management - Anyone who runs a business already has Time Management skills - Tick.
    Hand and Power Tools - Quote from guy at Milcom - "Which end of the stanley knife / cordless drill do you hold."
    NTE002 - Some sort of qualification you get for turning up at this course.
    CPD=175 - Ditto.
    QUEENSLAND RESIDENTS - THE COST OF THIS COURSE IS $415.00 - This is because Queenslanders are slower than New South Welshmen and need to do the course twice. - Quote from guy at Milcom on the phone... Hehehe.

    It's possible to do the course at a number of places, however being able to do the course night times and saturdays appeals to me due to my work schedule and The Man running behind me scooping up every dollar I earn to let me stay in the asbestos box my family live in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggeorge View Post
    I enquired about that.
    It's possible to do the course at a number of places, however being able to do the course night times and saturdays appeals to me due to my work schedule and The Man running behind me scooping up every dollar I earn to let me stay in the asbestos box my family live in.

    ASBO-001- asbestos disposal course-(oral method)

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    Then i'd have to live in my shed with my gym and arcade machine....
    Hang on, that's not such a bad idea

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    Believe it or not good cablers are hard to find.

    The hole system went south years ago when a electrician could get a cabling license by doing a 3 day course off memory.

    I currently have endorsements for S,C,F,A,U. I can translate if you like.

    But apart from just doing the cable courses, you need the experience.

    How to get a cable down a cavity
    know the bend radius of the cable etc

    How many cat5 / cat6 cablers have the required test equipment?



    or an Anritsu Site Master for RF.

    A multi meter just does not cut it any more

    Running cables are one thing. Certifying them is another.

    Cheers

    JIT

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    our of curiousity does the course go in to attenuation, loss single mode multi mode fibres,dispersion etc when it comes to optical fibres?And also TDM to locate where faults are?you cant really cable can you if you dont know this sutff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FTO King View Post
    our of curiousity does the course go in to attenuation, loss single mode multi mode fibres,dispersion etc when it comes to optical fibres?And also TDM to locate where faults are?you cant really cable can you if you dont know this sutff?
    Depends who you do the course with. There are a lot of places, but will give you the full 9 yards

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by FTO King View Post
    our of curiousity does the course go in to attenuation, loss single mode multi mode fibres,dispersion etc when it comes to optical fibres?And also TDM to locate where faults are?you cant really cable can you if you dont know this sutff?
    I know how to do all of that junk and I could get better money than I am but there is the constant uphill battle of trying to convince Mr. & Mrs Average that their systems would be more reliable and faster than the cheap job an equally qualified electrician would do.
    Biggeorge about the best you can hope for as an employee in the comms cabling side of things is $60k or a bit better if you show the right talent.
    Structured cabling should be standard, it's part of the generic cabling standards anyway, underground and fibre endorsments are good if you can get them and overhead is a possibilty but you need to like working at hieghts to bother with it.
    I got structured, coax, and fibre so far; want underground too. Its getting to the point where you may need to show a log book to get those soon.
    And as for charging extra per hour to contract usually not unless you have a special reputation already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FTO King View Post
    our of curiousity does the course go in to attenuation, loss single mode multi mode fibres,dispersion etc when it comes to optical fibres?And also TDM to locate where faults are?you cant really cable can you if you dont know this sutff?
    tdm ? or otdr / tdr

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    Acronyms ( and I hope I spelt that right)

    TDR = Time domain reflectometer

    Fiber, coax or coper. Who cares?

    And with the new data speeds a TDR is the min. There is a lot more tests required for CAT 6 and fiber now. And if you want to do RF you will need an Anritsu Site Master or similar. Standard is LDF450 as a main feed and 213/214 into the building. There is also RG6. Simple for a simgle LNB or cable connecttion. Look at it from a unit block. There are a few more problems

    Fiber, well we could talk all day about that one

    Each technology is unique and requires it own understanding and test equipment.

    Any one can run cables, but certifying them an other matter.

    Cheers

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    OK, I probably need to elaborate a bit.

    I do not hope to simply get a job out of this.

    Currently I install TV antennas and sat tv. I have done cat5 in the past but only for people I know and myself at home.

    The direction I want to take is to go towards fully wiring up houses during construction phase so they are capable of cat5, distributed AV, security systems, telephones, etc etc etc.. With the possibility of getting my fingers into the pie of these new housing estates that have optic fibre to the boundary and every service hanging off the fibre.

    If I can hit part 1 of the above and attack part 2 later I will be happy and slightly better off than I currently am.

    Experience is a big YES. I have a ton of experience, but I want a few notches in my belt for my effort, instead of just being able to say "Yes i can do that" I want a bit of paper that says "Yes this bloke is certified to do that."

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    Hey George , call me a cynic but I have NEVER actually see a house that has structured cabling that is actually used. The developers used to love pushing a "future proofed" home but I think it is a bit like those backyard make-overs. They are good for bragging rights but no one actually wants one , wants the expense of one or actually uses one as it should be used.

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    George you would be better off sourcing local qualified contractors and utilising their skills to do the work for you. You liase with the builders, organise the work and take a slice off the top of the payment. Hey you didn't get your hands dirty either!

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    Lightbulb open cabler registration

    So did you get the open licence? Milcom arn't the only ones who offer it this mob also offer it as does TAFE.
    There are a few RTOS offering this course.


    I just wanted to correct some of the above the course consists of these units:

    ICTCBL236 - Install, maintain and modify customer premises communications cabling: ACMA Restricted Rule
    ICTCMP202 - Perform restricted customer premises broadband cabling work: ACMA Restricted Rule
    ICTCBL237 - Install, maintain and modify customer premises communications cabling: ACMA Open Rule
    and
    ICTWHS204 - Follow work health and safety and environmental policy and procedures
    ICTTEN201 – Use electrical skills in telecommunications work

    I think they also offer a part online course for people already in industry but theres a practical assessment.
    Anyhow I hope that helps

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    Holly snapping thread resurrection!!!

    This thread is >10 years old....is this a record???
    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Bundy View Post
    Holly snapping thread resurrection!!!

    This thread is >10 years old....is this a record???
    I reckon so.

    I don't think I've seen a thread as old as this revived before.

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