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    I was stressing the poor guy would face jail time but just a heavy fine is a lot better. I wonder if its like in the movies where they say he has to stay a way from Satellite sites on the internet for a predetermined amount of time ???
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    Was that the era of the Public Gamma file??? (can't remember back that far).

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    Rodney Paul Doove, would you like to tell us how successful this venture was?
    There is a fine line between "Hobby" and "Madness"

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    Cool Crime does not pay?

    Quote Originally Posted by highway View Post
    Still not a bad lark. He sold 25 cards at about $350 each ($8550). Then sold another 12 to the feds (about $4100?). Thats over $12500 just in the sales that got him busted, and he was only fined $7000..... How many others would he have sold to have been doing volumes like that for the cards that got him busted?
    Sure beats being on the dole.

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    but why was foxtel pursueing it, it wasnt their service that was being "stolen", it was austar's as gammas are irdeto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gw1 View Post
    [*]Everything you post on Austech from your home PC is traceable back to your physical home address

    Whilst I agree with a lot of your post , the above I do not.

    Please explain the above. I know for a fact that the only way any authority would have access to any logged IP addresses on Austech is via a court order to the host.

    As to Austech members being police etc , I would expect those same members would also be members at every other forum that has similar discussions about the Australian system. Even ( especially ) the so called secret private forums that any bozo can get access to with a bit of arse kissing over a 6 month period.

    I have no idea how this thread has been dragged so far off topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikethat View Post
    It's all about the profit for this forum mate thats how it works around here. I was having this convo with a couple of guys the other day about the way this forum works,

    Profit ? ROFL ! Yeah , there is a big million dollar booty and all staff drink and gamble it all away.

    You have NFI whatsoever.

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    well then its your shout Andrew, woohoo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_dinAlt View Post
    but why was foxtel pursueing it, it wasnt their service that was being "stolen", it was austar's as gammas are irdeto.
    a smart lawyer should of seen a loophole like that. But then I wouldn't expect them to be technical either.

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    foxtel were perusing because of the box office packages .

    austar pays foxtell X % for each movie booked and as such were loosing income.

    in the end he would have come out with a massive loss in $$$ papers only say what sells a story not the full story

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    I did post before Foxtel and Austar are one and the same
    the parent company is xyz networks , google it .

    Sanity , it doesnt matter where in the world your hosting company is
    the authorities ( Read Telstra ) can log every IP address to that site

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    1500 views!!

    What a pack of knobs!!

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    your so cruel ocean lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanboy View Post
    1500 views!!

    What a pack of knobs!!
    hey hang on mate I have looked at the thread about 1000 times now LOL
    When you do things right, people won't be sure that you have done anything at all

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    lol and it was me the last 500 times lol

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    While i agree with GW's observations - a few of my own.

    There's alot of assumptions being made here - the main one bing that it operates here in Oz.

    It seems to me that even with a court order, it would have to be in an Australian jurisdiction or one where a treaty or reciprocal agreement exists.

    Note the domain name is .info and on one search, I saw reference to the Netherlands.

    Ex Whois:

    Domain ID : D1420170-LRMS
    Domain Name:AUSTECH.INFO
    Created On:31-Jan-2002 04:45:25 UTC
    Last Updated On:30-Jul-2007 13:37:11 UTC
    Expiration Date:31-Jan-2013 04:45:25 UTC
    Sponsoring Registrar:Wild West Domains (R213-LRMS)
    Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
    Status:CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED
    Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
    Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
    Registrant ID:C7598928-LRMS
    Registrant Name:Registration Private
    Registrant Organization: Domains by Proxy, Inc.
    Registrant Street1: DomainsByProxy.com
    Registrant Street2:15511 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
    Registrant Street3:
    Registrant City:Scottsdale
    Registrant State/Province:Arizona
    Registrant Postal Code:85260
    Registrant Country:US
    Registrant Phone:+1.4806242599

    Given how long it has lasted to date... One suspects the "owners" are pretty savvy about security. At least I hope so

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    The site has just gone 10 years old. And yes , it is hosted in the Netherlands. Interestingly there has not been a single legal threat received since I sold the site and it was moved there. Prior to that I was constantly harrassed.

    Satfacts , to obtain that sort of information from Telstra you will again need a court order.

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    Logging and tracking.... Since this site is overseas, the great australian internet tracker... opps i mean filter wont see it... i mean will track/see it.

    In my view ALL traffic to and from all hosts CAN be monitored. Since this site is clear text, it means ANY node between you and the remote end could be used as a tap point.

    So if you use overseas proxies then they will need to be encrypted in such a way as to be "secure"... is SSL Secure... mmmmm

    The fact that you are using a proxy can make your traffic of interest....

    Give them some credit.

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    As a second note, and back to the hobby, i think there are many grey areas about what is a crime, what is in breach of your contract with a provider and what is just not in the spirit of the contract.

    Is card sharing inside you house wrong.... Reading the Austar contract, it states "Outside your house" so cs may not be in breach for THAT use.

    The use of white cards.... even if you have a fully paid sub with ALL channels, and simply want to have a 2nd stb in the kids room, then YES the white card will be wrong as it gives/gave you access to FBO and Main event which were not covered by your monthly sub. You gained access to something for which you had not paid for.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanity View Post
    The site has just gone 10 years old. And yes , it is hosted in the Netherlands. Interestingly there has not been a single legal threat received since I sold the site and it was moved there. Prior to that I was constantly harrassed.

    Satfacts , to obtain that sort of information from Telstra you will again need a court order.

    Telstra Austar Foxtel are all in bed together , if the paytv providers want a bit of information to pass on to the feds I bet there is no court orders , even there is you will never know , about 3000 phone taps a year happening right at this moment and a phone tap tracks all internet activity .

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