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LCD & PLASMA Useless
In todays Heraldsun newspaper, as I am sure other as well, was a story about all LCD & Plasma TV's will be useless after May 1.
Apparently, even before Digital TV is the sole transmission method, they are scrapping MPEG2 transmission in favour of the compressed MPEG4 (h.264??) method, rendering all our new wizz bang HDTV's useless!!!!!
I have just got away from a house full of HD & SD STB's in favour of intergrated TV's.
Time to complain to my local member I think!
However, of the plus side, I am sure it will be a 10 year change over plan much like Analog > digital.
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So all our new LCDs dont support mpeg4?
Well according to the article they arnt! It goes on to say that Australia adopted the outdated MPEG2 format while the rest of the world went for the MPEG4 choice. I wouldnt know either way but I dont think that MPEG4 was around back in the late 90's when descisions where being made, I only remember the debarcle about having either SD or HD but not both arguements. But it stands to reason that the politicians whom deceided the fate of Digital TV would choose the wrong path!!!!Originally Posted by stalin
It seems ridiculous, the article also says that hardware to receive the new format goes on sale on May 1st yet brodcasters will not start transmissions till the majority of Australian households have the new technology, chicken or egg???
I wonder if these new MPEG4 receivers are backwardly compatiable. And also, in the years following till MPEG2 is switched off in favour of MPEG4, will there be newer technology still yet incompatiable that we will be forced to purchase that as well?
I reckon its all BS. The consumer should revolt and refuse to upgrade!
just my 2c worth.
Just found the article in electronic form....
THAT expensive plasma or LCD will be obsolete from May 1 when Australia's TV population - about 16.5 million of them - and its digital TV system, becomes officially outdated.
In a move sure to anger viewers, the first of the appliances built to receive programs of a planned upgrade to digital systems will be unveiled.
New high-definition set-top boxes conforming to the networks' new specifications will be on sale by May 1.
They signal the start of changes to the way networks want to send programs to TVs.
Freeview, the organisation representing all the networks including the ABC, says the move to an upgraded digital TV system, which uses a technology called MPEG4, could take years.
"The broadcasters will not begin this transmission until the majority of the population has a device that can receive MPEG4 transmissions," Freeview's chief executive Robin Parkes said.
"Each broadcaster will decide this individually."
But in a headache for consumers, programs sent by the future digital TV system will not work with existing LCD, plasma or tube TVs - or high-definition set-top boxes.
And none of these expensive appliances can be upgraded.
To watch the new digital TV system, consumers will have to buy a Freeview-approved high-definition set-top box or a LCD or plasma TV that conforms to Freeview specifications.
Hooks to entice viewers to Freeview and away from analogue include 15 new digital channels, but not necessarily much new content, and an electronic program guide.
The first channel is ONE, the Ten network's 24-hour sport channel, from March 26.
By 2010, we could have interactive TV, where viewers use a remote control to participate in quiz shows or other competitions.
Freeview-endorsed LCD and plasma TVs are not yet on sale.
"They're asking us to build dearer TVs during an economic downturn for a market that doesn't exist yet," a high-profile TV set manufacturer said, who did not want to be named
"The ugly truth is, in nine years Australia's digital TV system has become obsolete through no one's fault."
While Australia uses an outdated MPEG2 digital TV technology, the rest of the world, including New Zealand, is moving to the far less data-hungry MPEG4 standard.
I remember all the debates about digital tv in the mid 90's and whether we should go HD or SD etc..... now H2.64 lol
Leroy
LOL, yes, if wasnt so fn expensive for the end user!!!
Dam it I just spent $3k on a shiny new 46" Samsung about 2 years ago lol
I bought mine last week ! only 2K though.
I cant see how this would be true as how come it is not widespread public knowledge ?
This is great news,they will be worth a dime a dozen,and at long last i will be able to afford to do what i have always wanted to do and that is get 6 plasmas an put them on my toilet walls and floors LOL
So if i feel like shitting in the woods i can or at question time i could take a big dump on them for a change.....the list goes on forever
When you do things right, people won't be sure that you have done anything at all
This is great news,they will be worth a dime a dozen,and at long last i will be able to afford to do what i have always wanted to do and that is get 6 plasmas an put them on my toilet walls and floors LOL
So if i feel like shitting in the woods i can or at question time i could take a big dump on them for a change.....the list goes on forever
lol sounds like a good idea it would be interesting shitting in their laps for a change
Tagg
It will be only for freeview channels tho.
Many an 'advertised' "DVB-T MPEG2" BIG screen LCD/Plasma will be H.264 MPEG4 compatible.
And yes, H.264's MPEG4 is backward compatible with MPEG2 broadcasting.
Example, a year ago mate bought a Sony Bravia LCD big screen, all advertised to the AUS Spec rubbish, but, on the packaging itself the designation 'H.264 tuner'.
Later models of same simply had the H.264 reference removed, I'd say to avoid confusing mum n pops.
My Samsung 650 Series is advertised to AUS Spec MPEG2, but I'd lay odds on it'll be fine with MPEG4.
5th Wyking Panzer Division
freeview is a representive consortium of the current FTA broadcasters, 2, 7, 9, 10, sbs, so basiclly it is our current fta spectrum!
Freeview is the marketing arm selling FTA digital TV to those who have not yet dived in!'
err, just buy an aftermarket mpeg4 stb......
Talk on the radio is that they will be subscription based.
i.e.
To get extra channels in H264 format you need this box You need to pay monthly fee.
Ohh you want EPG you need to buy option 1.
Ohh you want some movies as well you need option 2.
etc
etc
So Freeview is not Free TV.
If they work as fast as they have so far, there will be upgrades and changes that will make this outdated before they even get it made.
geez, I have bought intergrated digital tv's for the very reason of getting rid of extra boxes!!!!!
i think you will find that that is rumor and speculation,. freeview is just a marketing machine for the current FTA TV's. If they ever start to charge then they are not FTA networks and would drop off the freeview bandwagon.
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plasma and lcd are crap anyway
crt is still the benchmark for pic quility
oldschool still rules
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But in a headache for consumers, programs sent by the future digital TV system will not work with existing LCD, plasma or tube TVs - or high-definition set-top boxes.
And none of these expensive appliances can be upgraded.
So Says the HeraldSun report.
Who lead the nation down-the-garden-path, surely not one of our democratically elected Govs.
HaHaHa that's so funny.
I can feel a class action coming on.
My near 16 yeat old CRT TV still works perfect, Akai 51 cm Stereo bought 20/09/1993, $799 with 5yr warranty.(Just looking at the receipt)
Whats another Box......
It will be easier to change the light bulbs...no ladder
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