Installing a motorised Dish set up

[beer4life]

Satellite / Optus C1/Ku
\/ LNB Power ON
V LNB Type / Single
V LNB Freq / 1130 ?????(Incorrect, would be 11300 or 10700.)
V 22 KHz OFF
V DiSEqC Switch 1.0 / 1.1 ( Your Setup needs " OFF ". You are not using switches.)
DiSEqcInput 1XXXXXXXX( These will not appear when DiSEqC is OFF. )
Satelite / 1XXXXXXXX

Cheers.

[Dishtrackted]

It is 11300

Got up checked signals still getting great signals but no improvement on 90% and 20%.
I have moved the dish, the LNB, the pole mount until i was getting the best signal then lowering the pulse and fine tuneing till the highest reading again.

Must have put in over 10 hours by now
I am ready to kick the dog




Just switched DiSEqC switch off
Getting back up the ladder for another go

[beer4life]

It is 11300

Got up checked signals still getting great signals but no improvement on 90% and 20%.
I have moved the dish, the LNB, the pole mount until i was getting the best signal then lowering the pulse and fine tuneing till the highest reading again.

Must have put in over 10 hours by now
I am ready to kick the dog
Just switched DiSEqC switch off
Getting back up the ladder for another go

If you are on The correct Satellite, C1, you should have Level and Quality in the green.
If you're getting meter reading and level reading, but low Quality, there is something wrong prior to this stage.
If OK, Then:

Menu / OK
Installation /OK
Enter Pin / 0000 / OK
V Motorised Setting /OK
Satellite / Optus C1/Ku
V Frequency / ( ) 12367 GHz( H )
V DiSEqC Motor / 1.2
Hemisihere / Southern
Move / E or W coarse
Move / E or W fine
Motor Control ( Press OK for sub Menu.)( Forget this for the moment.)
Go To ( ........... )
Next step, check these settings, and fine tune Azimuth with the motor.

[beer4life]

I Know that this is fundamental, but needs to be asked.
There are two F6 connectors on the rear, " LNB Input " and " Loop Out ".
You should be on the top one, " LNB Input ". Are You?

[Dishtrackted]

Had another go no change.

The angle on the motor supposed to be nearly 11 East for here to get C1.

I am asuming 11 east is anti clockwise.
I have also tried clockwise just in case.

I am getting desperate

Is there anything else I am doing wrong ?
or
Have I just found D1 instead of C1 and it doesnt show up?
When I loosen the pole mount there realy is only one big signal slightly to the east. I am assuming it is C1.

I have learnt to re-wire a house, put in burglar alarms ,build houses, tiling, plumbing, carpentry and virtually can do anything but this has got me completly flumoxed.
I will give it a few more hours tommorow
then I might have to call someone up.

[Dishtrackted]

I Know that this is fundamental, but needs to be asked.
There are two F6 connectors on the rear, " LNB Input " and " Loop Out ".
You should be on the top one, " LNB Input ". Are You?

On the STB LNB (it was working on Imparja before the motor)
On the bottom of the motor its says LNB and REC
on the
Sat Finder it says ToRec and ToLNB

[beer4life]

On the STB LNB (it was working on Imparja before the motor)
On the bottom of the motor its says LNB and REC
on the
Sat Finder it says ToRec and ToLNB

Just so that it's quite clear;

Dish/LNB >>> ToLNB...Sat Finder...ToRec >>> Main Down Lead >>> LNB Input.
Make sure that you are not on Loop Out on the Receiver.

Let's backtrack a little.

Satellite: 156.0E Optus C1
Elevation: 44.7°
Azimuth (true): 17.4°
Azimuth (magn.): 5.7°

Set Your motor at 17.4 E. (That's where the sun rises.)
Slowly move the whole unit (Dish, motor and bracket) on the mast, through where you think True C1 is. (With your exact address on Dish Pointer, you should be able to recognise a ground feature.) If necessary move elevation up and down with each sweep, until you get a strong signal.
Tighten all bolts.
Check the receiver and if no quality, and you did not find any other signals,
then one or more of your settings is wrong.

[beer4life]

Put your location in Dish Pointer so that you can see where your dish should be pointing.

[Dishtrackted]

Looking at my image of C1 placement I think I may have been a little too far east
Its difficult to get a geographical feature as I am in a small country town with not many building or structures to line up.
I will get up again tommorow morning

Worst case scenario will the local Austar guy know how to set it up for me
or want to take the dish back because i dont connect to Austar?

[mtv]

According to information that was previously supplied, the line marks exactly where your dish should be pointing for C1.

Looking at my image of C1 placement I think I may have been a little too far east
Its difficult to get a geographical feature as I am in a small country town with not many building or structures to line up.
I will get up again tommorow morning

Worst case scenario will the local Austar guy know how to set it up for me
or want to take the dish back because i dont connect to Austar?

That pic doesn't look like a small country town without many structures ???

The local Austar guy will certainly know how to set the dish up for C1, but he may not have installed motorised set-up's before. I'd doubt he'd want the dish back. Probably couldn't give a rats... what you did with it.

If you do contact the Austar installer, do it on the quiet... not a wise move to try and arrange it through Austar...

[beer4life]

Yes, you're right, that was another member's location.
Sorry for the mix up, but it should give him an idea where to point from his own location using " Dish Pointer ".

[Dishtrackted]

I have looked at the location of C1 on the local maps
Lined up the dish towards there jiggled up and down got a the best signal and still nothing.90% signal 22% Quality
Its a brand new motor
Is it likely to have a fault in the conections or settings?
I had perfect Imparja before 90 plus % signal
The meter is working which should mean the cables are ok
The motor moves which means the motor componant is OK
Has anyone come across this before

Is it worth by passing the motor and trying to tune in C1 as before?
or is there another test that can be done?

[beer4life]

I have looked at the location of C1 on the local maps
Lined up the dish towards there jiggled up and down got a the best signal and still nothing.90% signal 22% Quality
Its a brand new motor
Is it likely to have a fault in the conections or settings?
I had perfect Imparja before 90 plus % signal
The meter is working which should mean the cables are ok
The motor moves which means the motor componant is OK
Has anyone come across this before

Is it worth by passing the motor and trying to tune in C1 as before?
or is there another test that can be done?

Good thinking, I doubt that is the problem, but try this;
Instead of.
Dish/LNB >>> ToLNB...Sat Finder...ToRec >>> Main Down Lead >>> LNB Input.
Try this,
Dish/LNB >>> ToLNB...Motor...ToRec >>>Sat Finder>>> Main Down Lead >>> LNB Input.
Or, once adjusted for max, go direct from LNB to LNB input.
In other words, bypass the Motor and Sat Finder.
I'm afraid, if that is no better, that there must be an error in your Input Data.

[mtv]

If you have the dish/motor aligned correctly, it 'should' all work ok.

If everything is aligned, then there are two likely causes for strong signal, but poor quality.

1. Faulty LNB

2. Deformed dish (I still have doubts about your old dish... with the double pivot point you mentioned, even though you said you fixed it)

I've seen both of those faults with the same result you are getting.

The odd thing is that you say the dish/lnb was working fine before you put the motor on it, which suggests it's an alignment issue.

There's always a possibility a fault has developed when you've moved it.

[Dishtrackted]

what should I try next ?

[mtv]

what should I try next ?

Try putting the dish back on the pole without the motor (as it was originally) and aligning it for C1.

If you still can't get good signal and quality when the dish and LNB are aligned correctly, then it's a fault with the LNB, dish, or connections (usually the first two).

If that works ok, then you don't have your motor set-up correctly.

[gordon_s1942]

What I did was have the Humax and a 7 inch LCD TV plus the sat meter beside me at the dish.
I had the dish as straight,square,plumb as I could on the positioner horn and the dish 'down' so it was almost vertical.
I had a clamp on the mast to stop the positioner from sliding down as I had those bolts firm but not tight.
The motor was on '0'.
I was told by a surveyor my street is at 270 degrees, East to West, so I turned the whole thing about 10 degrees to my left facing 'North'
Based on those declination angles I brought the dish up to the mark.
TV on,Humax on to installation, Sat meter at Max scream.
LNB set roughly 10 degrees clockwise facing the 85 cm dish.
Then very slowly began to turn the whole assembly to my right untill the meter squealed, reduced setting and kept turning untill I was where I thought C1 should be and 'bumped' the dish,Up and Down, Left and Right, watching the quality scale on the TV to see what happened.
I kept doing this untill the quality scale was over 20%, Humax drops off under 18%, closed install menu and there was C1.
I encounted a number of false squeals on the meter which is why I used the TV.
After that I 'motored' the horn around to the settings for my area. I then slowly turned the whole assembly untill I got C1 back and thightened everything up.
I must have it aligned correctly as I can find D1,C1,D2 and Pas8 but I still havent worked out how to 'Store' the settings on the humax.
And Yes, I have read page GB37 about 500 times !!!!!
I had spent over a week trying to get the dish aligned but the day I did, it took less than an hour to have it up and running.
Have Fun.

[Dishtrackted]

Whoooooooo Hooooooooo
I got C1

I rang my sat guy who sold me the stuff he said go into dish settings and lock in all the sats to my LNB and check signal on all Sats when I get a beep
Suprise suprise
I was getting the beep for Intelsat 8
I was too far East
The Google Earth Picture and Line is a fair bit out
Turned left got D1
a bit more C1.
Apologys to my wife who has had to put up with me for a week in a realy bad mood
and thanx for all your help on here.
Hope this helps someone in the same situation as me in the future.


Now to get the motor switched on and stations locked in
any help
What do I do next?

[beer4life]

I've spent quite some time trying to justify this statement, but can only prove that it is a furphy. I only wish that people who make these statements would quote their references.
So Cobber, 35 minus 5 = 29 is the correct figure.
However your figure of 4.1 Azimuth for C1 and -24.2 Latitude, in fact, puts you about 200 Kms off the coast near Agnes Waters.

Tip no.1 just keep persevering. Very difficult the very first time as the cheap sat finders are useless in this situation.

Tip No.2 Need to remember to add the declination in Sth pole whereas you subtract in North pole and and most instruction tell you to subtract forgetting to mention which pole you're in. Took me a while to work this one out. Eg in Mel lat is approx 37 degree, and declination is 5 degrees, therefore need to set angle to 43 degrees or thereabouts not 32 etc.
Tip No 5. Good Luck

I'm afraid I must take exception to this statement.
My searching and my own installation do not support this statement.
Nor does a practical viewpoint of the N & S visualisation of the Clarke Belt
This site gives the correct representation of declination.



Kindest Regards, " The Druid ".

[Dishtrackted]

I've spent quite some time trying to justify this statement, but can only prove that it is a furphy. I only wish that people who make these statements would quote their references.
So Cobber, 35 minus 5 = 29 is the correct figure.
However your figure of 4.1 Azimuth for C1 and -24.2 Latitude, in fact, puts you about 200 Kms off the coast near Agnes Waters.

Yes Agnes Water (on land)
Lat -24.2
Motor Angle 24
Motor Declination Angle 35 Degrees minus Declination angle 4.1 = 31 for Dish Bracket