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    Default Irdeto CAM Interface in Dreambox Help...

    I got myself a purple CAM for my Dreambox (which it seems is SMIT ) which I tried to get up and running.

    I turned the box off, slotted the CAM in with the purple label upwards.

    This seemed to play all sorts of havoc with my softcam, with it not reading my other two cards in the internal slots properly.

    What am I doing wrong? Do I need to do something else.

    How do I tell the Dreambox to only use the card in the purple for Setanta?

    There's not much in the manual about the use of the CAM.



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    If you are using PLi Jade2 it will;

    1. read the irdeto card in the cam
    2. show you the details and messages
    3. activate first before whatever softcam you have enabled
    4. work perfect with mr. whitey





    See the pli wiki pages which I should write more on, but hardly anyone uses this neat feature in the 7020 or for that matter the new DM8000 -
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    thanks jonc, i'm still using Jade1, haven't got around to updating quite yet.

    can a cam interface be hot swapped? or must the STB be powered right down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allstarnz View Post
    thanks jonc, i'm still using Jade1, haven't got around to updating quite yet.

    can a cam interface be hot swapped? or must the STB be powered right down?
    I hot swap it and the worst that will happen is enigma will restart, but I do not do hot swapping all the often I must confess.
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    ok, thanks. Will try and get it up and running tonight, now that my TV duties are done for the meantime.

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    ok.... i seem to be missing a trick here...

    i slot the card in as below:



    push it right in, go into the CI module setup and reset the CAM.

    put the card in and change some channels, at this point it all goes pear shaped.

    The other encrypted channels, no longer detect the correct enryption in the top right panel (eg ND), and the FTA channels no longer show any picture.

    the moment I eject the CAM, all is just fine again....

    odd

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    Well something is wrong (if you did not say you were updating to Jade2, then I would say you are not using Jade2) then with the setup or the CI module - most likely the CI module, if you remember the working PLi wiki pages are all written off the boxes I have here working 100%. Not all Irdeto Ci's are the same as I found here years ago much to my wallets dismay. Some work and some do not.

    So when you put the CI module into your 7020 running Jade 2 does it look like this?


    If not and it just says Ci module detected (which means it is not working properly) - you may need to upgrade your Ci module to the latest version of its firmware.

    As a parting thought, you did put the card into the Ci module with the gold chip face up right, but even if you did not it will not cuase the issues you mention if it is working properly.
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    A big problem with the dreams and cams is incorrect detection of the cams and or streams. Some images are also better than others. I have seen certain images not detect cams at all. Your probably going to need to play with different images and maybe even different cams to overcome your issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwispy View Post
    Your probably going to need to play with different images and maybe even different cams to overcome your issue.
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    When i first got my irdeto ci cam no body told me the card had to be facing up eg the gold microchip facing up, not down when plugged into the cam a trap for young players its only a thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by digitaldvd View Post
    When i first got my irdeto ci cam no body told me the card had to be facing up eg the gold microchip facing up, not down when plugged into the cam a trap for young players its only a thought
    same, i did exactly what you did, and found the same thing. Especially confusing, as the internal slot has the chip downwards. Thanks to you and JonC for the tip.

    Here are some more observations:

    - I slot the CAM in on an irdeto channel, and takes it, and acknowledges it's there. I then place the card in, and I can go into the CI menu, where all the data will show up correctly. Country, serial etc etc.

    - BUT, on that channel, the CAM will not pick up the correct encryption info and it will struggle to even acknowledge all the data stream is there.

    - As a consequence of this, it will then show up the data that looks something like this: (note the I and the 976x0)


    TVNZ is unencrypted for me.

    The moment I eject the CAM, it starts working again.

    I don't have another STB test the CAM on, as the purpose of buying this damned thing was to not have yet another STB

    I will have a play with Flash Wizard tomorrow.

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    tried the standard image (dreambox-image-dm7020-20050912093221), still behaved strangely.

    I wonder if the unit is perhaps faulty?

    I don't have any real way to test, I might e-mail the retailer (I didn't buy it off an auction site this time around)

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    you are using a 2005 release? No wonder - my god! this release is 4 years old! or did you you cut and paste the wrong details?
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    Not good to hear what your going through Allstarnz.

    Using Irdeto Common Interface Ver 01.06, Softcell ver 2.09 in Dream7020 and Dream7020si, Running Pli Jade 2 and lolite. Runs all my Flavours of Irdeto no probs, plus a few of the others.
    Didnt have to do anything specific to get running.

    Seeing the Irdeto Icon up for your Freeview doesnt look right.
    Definately a bug in the machine there.

    Id say give your box a flash over to PliJade2 and go from there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jonc View Post
    you are using a 2005 release? No wonder - my god! this release is 4 years old! or did you you cut and paste the wrong details?
    that's the newest base image available that I could find


    rentakill - thanks for the info. It's now running Jade2 off Flaswizard, still doesn't work. I guess I could post it back asking them to verify if it's a faulty unit. I'll shoot them an e-mail tomorrow. How do I tell the versions etc of the CAM?

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    Gidday Allstarnz

    To bring up the version of your Cam, pretty much follow what Jonc has in his posting above.
    I see that my Cam is the same version as his one.
    Basically enter the Setup menu, Hardware Settings, CI Module, then either Init the CI Module before entering the bottom Option Irdeto Access option..
    This will then bring up your Version of CAM currently in use..

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    I wouldn't rule it out being a problem with your CAM, even though as you say it's brand new.

    I get the impression that SMiT are SHiT. I've got a SMiT CAM and it worked fine for a year but a few weeks ago suddenly stopped working: after reboot it gives picture for a minute or so then stops. Sometimes it starts working again after ten minutes but then stops again soon after. Problem manifests in several CI receivers including Humax and Manhattan Plaza. I've heard the same from others too.

    I suggest you track down somebody in your neighbourhood who can help you verify your CAM is OK. No point wasting hours blaming the dream if the CAM's a lemon. At least it's not an eBay one! I've bought my share of eBay CAMS and won't be doing that again.

    Having said that, although Common Interface works well enough most of the time, there are unfortunately plenty of interoperability issues between particular CAM versions and receiver firmware versions. Classic symptoms:
    • Working for a while, then stopping, but working again after you unplug and reinsert.
    • CAM menu becomes responsive for several seconds, the CAM then disappears from receiver CI menu, then reappears after a few seconds. This happens when the CAM crashes and gets reset by the receiver.


    Those with receiver/CAM pairs that occasionally need restarting should definitely do it via power cycling rather than pulling the CAM out and reinserting. Aside from the inconvenience of CAM wanking, you don't want to do it too often or it really will leave you blind and unable to see pictures - the fine pinned connectors are only good for a certain number of cycles.

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    thanks GW01, I have contacted the vendor I have purchased it off, with the intention of returning it to them to verify whether the CI is faulty.

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