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    Default Can anyone help align this satellite dish

    Hi All,

    A friend has recently had selectv install a dish at his house costing $300. Now he wishes to move it to Optus c1 sattelite. We attempted to move it ourselves but could get no signal on the optus c1 sattelite.

    Accepting defeat I found an installer who advertises on this site who was to come and point the sat to the optus c1 sattelite for us.

    After 2 hours he has advised us that the dish is too small and could not get any signal.

    To make things worse he is now bringing over a 65cm dish on monday to install which will cost us another 150 dollars on top of the $40 we paid him for his efforts today.

    This is ending up costing near $500 to tget a signal from optus c1 sat.

    To make matters worse I spoke to selectv who advised me the smallest dish they use is 65cm but after we measured the dish it measures up at 56cm one way and 63cm the other way (I am not sure if this constitutes as a 65cm dish) .

    I dont know who to trust and who is lying. Either the selectv installer has jipped us with a smaller dish or the user who came to look is incapable of lining up the dish to the sattelite.

    Is there anyone in the Sadlier / Liverpool area who can perhaps come by and have a look or find out what is going on. We are happy to pay a modest amount but if we keep having to pay for unsuccesful attempts it will get very frustrating very quickly

    I have pmed keith because I know he is a local but is there anyone who could help sort this matter out?



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    i am not in the area so cant help you out but it doesn't sound right to me you should be able to align it yourself,

    get a level and check if the mount is level start your dish of at 45 degrees look around the area and see if there is any other dishes to get an idea, i usually start at 45 left to right upto 50 then if i dont get it left to right down to 40 (the 40-50 will depend how well your mount has been installed and level ect) make sure you do it slow so you can let it get signal . if you cant get a little tv ect to watch on roof get your mate on phone ect down stairs to watch why you move

    hope this helps cheers

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    if you get pas8 or intelsat 8 as its known as now you will get C1 from that dish i think the installer has NFI

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    When you tried to move the dish, did you use a sat finder? a little box that plugs inline to the lnb and has a needle on it to measure your signal strength? and did you use a compas to make sure your pointing pretty spot on? To align a dish needs to be done in small movements, not only left and right but sometimes a little up or down. Sorry i dont live that close.

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    I always found the signal strength on the pas8 transponders lower than the C1 signals. Therefore using a dish designed for pas 8 (intersat 8 now) it should be more that ample for C1. Common issue would be not twisting the lnb and dropping the (tilt) azimuth when moving to C1. 1/2 inch I reckon.

    I personally like a 90cm so when ever you move it there is alway plenty of signal.

    Cheers

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    also the skew or x-pole is a lot different from intelsat's to optus sats

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    Quote Originally Posted by RSA View Post
    if you get pas8 or intelsat 8 as its known as now you will get C1 from that dish i think the installer has NFI
    Just wanting to rip more money of him I would say.
    I would tell him to **** off. And buy a slab and try again on the weekend.

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    Thanks for the replies.

    I have just spoken to the austech member again who advised he recieved optus b3 @ 98 percent but could not get optus c1. I am a little dissapointed that the dish was unable to be lined up.

    here is a pic of the sattelite dish perhaps this can shed some light.

    I am happy to pay anyone to come line it up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lextsy View Post
    Thanks for the replies.

    I have just spoken to the austech member again who advised he recieved optus b3 @ 98 percent but could not get optus c1. I am a little dissapointed that the dish was unable to be lined up.

    here is a pic of the sattelite dish perhaps this can shed some light.

    I am happy to pay anyone to come line it up.

    the lnb got to be 7 o'clock i think this will solve problem(looking at it fronk on )

    btw wtf is that lnb

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    whoever said you can't get C1 with that is a (insert evil term here)

    if it gets intelsat8, and D2 it will get C1.

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    Although we did not pay or ask for it selectv left us an Aurion selectv STB which will be gladly given to the first person who can line this sattelite up. What are they worth btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by lextsy View Post
    Although we did not pay or ask for it selectv left us an Aurion selectv STB which will be gladly given to the first person who can line this sattelite up. What are they worth btw
    $77.00 with 2 months free brand new, you will be able to do it yourself the lnb has to be moved to 7 oclock and then do what i told you no problems

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    I agree.
    Try again.

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    I dunno about the 7 oclock thing mentioned above, many lnbs have to be on a 45o angle, some 90o, normally there are some lines on it, on yours it would be on the yellow part just near the white bit at the front, that indicate which way is up, have them pointing dead vertical (straight up towards the sky) for use with optus C1 - then follow the above methods, buying a $15 sat finder might save you a lot of mucking around.

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    My guess is hes not useing a spectrum analizer, most probably just a signal meter.

    I had a similar problem with a signal meter one weekend at a freinds, but with a little persistance found C1. Its not too hard.

    Where is your dish pointed to now, intelsat8, D2 or B3?

    You could mark your dish position on the pole and incline on dish with a maker pen before playing so you could return it back to where ever you were.

    If we know what sat your now looking at we would have a better idea at which way you have to move the dish as a guide.

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    SKEW DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU ARE IN THE COUNTRY

    for example, the skew for C1 here is 40 deg clockwise. in gippsland it might be 45 deg, in melb 35 deg. it all depends.

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    lextsy
    I'm a bit pressed for time over the weekend (work etc) but pm me your mobile and if I can get some free time sunday afternoon, I will give you a ring. That dish is ok, and as tony soprano said, i feel it maybe an lnb issue.
    What type of stb is he using? Humax?

    Keith

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    The dish is currently pointed towards pas8. The guy who tried to align it returned it back to the original location.

    He was not using a spec analyser just a normal $50 kit the same I had.

    He has a arion selectv box and a mutant laying around which we tried to pick up signal with

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    A very rough suggestion, because im in Melb and your in Sydney (i think).

    Mark your dish position on the pole.
    Mark the elevation on the side of the dish.

    On the side of the dish you should have some degree markings.
    Raise the dish up about 5 degrees.

    Turn the dish about 15 to 18 degrees west.

    Have your signal meter turned up pretty high to help with a weak signal.
    When you find a signal, try one of the fta signals here
    to confirm you have c1.

    As a side note if you dont have c1 you may possibly have d1 or d2.
    Go here , pick d1 or d2 and a fta signal to confirm or your receiver if you have d1 or d2 and adjust acrodingly.
    If you have d1 you need to turn more, if you have d2 yourve gone too far and have to turn back a little.

    Remember sat meter to be turned up a fair bit when swinging the dish.
    Dont give up if it dont work, you can try to lift or lower the dish by a few degrees more and try again.

    Once you get a lock you can play with your skew to boost the signal.

    Hope this helps.

    Also if any member is living in Sydney and knows the exact angles up and west for c1, from intelsat8, it would help Lextsy heaps.

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    Angles from Liverpool are from memory 358 degrees north 45 degrees elevation(from a vertical post). There was a sat website where you can put in your co-ordinates and it will give you the bearings. Anybody know the site?

    Ok found the site. From Liverpool (33.56S degrees x 150.55E degrees) it says azimuth 9.05 degrees (north) by elevation 50.15 degrees.
    My earlier figures are magnetic north I think, and their figures are true north, or vice a versa. Been a while since I had to play with this stuff.

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