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    Quote Originally Posted by cwispy View Post
    These drive belts are not meant to have any sort of compound added to them. The best bet would be to replace the belt with the correct ones from someone like WES, but I guess if you dont have that option available to you, some belt grip would work, but its not recommended.

    Sorry dude, but if Mick says its worked for him everytime. I`ll beleive him and I`ll give it a try tommorrow and will post the outcome.

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    Im not saying that it hasnt worked for Mick, and good on him for finding a simple solution, im just saying that it is not recommended by the manufacturer. I have been doing warranty repairs on this type of equipment for over 20 years and using a belt grip is never a fix, its a fudge. The "proper" fix is a belt replacement, but due to cost or access to parts, some may choose to use the belt grip. Personally I will "always" change the faulty belt as that is how it was designed and there is less chance of additional contaminants being attracted to the gears and inner workings of the drive and gumming things up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micksxboxmods View Post
    its waterbased dude, a tiny amount will do no harm.
    Mick im sure you use only just enough to allow the belt to grip again and it is unlikely to cause any problem. However someone who puts way to much on, which then sprays all over the inside of the drive can cause additional problems later. But hey I wasnt saying not to try it, I was just saying that a replacement belt is not hard to obtain either and should only cost a few dollars at most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwispy View Post
    Im not saying that it hasnt worked for Mick, and good on him for finding a simple solution, im just saying that it is not recommended by the manufacturer. I have been doing warranty repairs on this type of equipment for over 20 years and using a belt grip is never a fix, its a fudge. The "proper" fix is a belt replacement, but due to cost or access to parts, some may choose to use the belt grip. Personally I will "always" change the faulty belt as that is how it was designed and there is less chance of additional contaminants being attracted to the gears and inner workings of the drive and gumming things up.
    totally agree mate, but as you are aware of the condition some of these consoles come to us in, a little belt grip is nothing on the dust, filth and in some cases, cockroach crap inside them.

    I'm all for the belt replacement too....

    lol, the manufacturers also don't recommend chipping them too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micksxboxmods View Post

    lol, the manufacturers also don't recommend chipping them too
    Only cause they dont make any money from it themselves
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    what mick says is very true , it does work and it works well , but a better fix is to replace the belts as cwispy says
    either way both methods work and work very well , I have used both methods but prefer to replace belts as it is a more permanent fix , however if there are no belts at hand then the belt grip works fine
    you just need to use whatever you have at hand to do the job at the time

    BTW for it is worth , I reckon Thompsons are the best drive these days (easy to get ones that is , imo the LG/Hitachi is by far the better drive) , in the old days the sammys were better since they read CDR , however back then a blank DVDR was $25 and a burner was $1500 , that is why the sammy was better then , it has just stuck that it is the best now

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    Have to admit I tend to use belt grip as well, and while admittedly its not as good as a belt replacement it seems to do the job reliably, which of course is what counts.

    Don't really like Thompson drives though, even with a new laser... weird, just have to disagree here...lol, The LG Hitachi one is the one I always use to speed up my installs, sammys with a decent laser seem to work well too. Might just be the media I like to use tho.

    And cockroach crap does stink....ewww...wash hands after those ones!!!! Even worse when there are still live ones...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsdn View Post

    And cockroach crap does stink....ewww...wash hands after those ones!!!! Even worse when there are still live ones...
    yeah you can smell them a mile away , I have offended a few people in the past by telling them to take the machine away , clean it and then bring it back .
    I had one bloke who told me off for telling him to that , and his machine had live ones pouring out of it on my front step like something out of a horror movie lol

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    where can I purchase these new belts?
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    RS , Farnell , WES etc etc etc , even dick smiths has belts
    you have to be aware that the size of the belt in the sammy is slightly smaller than the standard ? size of the same belt . you just need to make sure you get the size right , slightly smaller is ok but not by too much , also do not use one slightly larger

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    cheers
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    I have bought hundreds of belts suitable for XBOX Samsung drives from RS Components. I will post the exact size when i get home. The cost off the top of my head is about 90c per belt. CRC Belt Grip is not designed for use on thin rubber belts.

    Why use belt grip and potentially have an unhappy customer when a belt is so cheap??


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    Anyone here got 4 spare belts they are willing to sell and post to Melb???
    I only need 2 but would like to have a extra 2 for spares.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aral View Post
    I have bought hundreds of belts suitable for XBOX Samsung drives from RS Components. I will post the exact size when i get home. The cost off the top of my head is about 90c per belt. CRC Belt Grip is not designed for use on thin rubber belts.

    Why use belt grip and potentially have an unhappy customer when a belt is so cheap??
    Do you also replace the pulleys too Aral? This is the only real way to replace belts and pulleys.... both together.

    Hence the reason in using CRC belt grip as the belt is bedded into the pulley already. 9/10 times, the belt simply needs cleaning all the dust and crud off it.

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    You know yourself Mick the pulleys dont need replacing. The belt is not tensioned tight enough to do any major damage to the pulleys.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aral View Post
    You know yourself Mick the pulleys dont need replacing. The belt is not tensioned tight enough to do any major damage to the pulleys.
    dunno about that, I've seen some with considerable wear on the pulleys, it is usually caused by dirt/grit under the belt, not the tension mate.

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    I have see a lot of these units with broken pulleys due to people mistreating them. I have never seen one with a bad pully which has been treated well however.

    @Min - Did you get the belts and the sizes as yet or not? I have just got a Samsung drive in so I can check the correct belt size and get you a few if still needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwispy View Post
    I have see a lot of these units with broken pulleys due to people mistreating them. I have never seen one with a bad pully which has been treated well however.

    @Min - Did you get the belts and the sizes as yet or not? I have just got a Samsung drive in so I can check the correct belt size and get you a few if still needed.

    If you could, that`ll be great.
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