Bottle of something or carton of beer!!

[mudcrab]

remember (and you probably already have done this anyway) to have the strong set on a 'valid' C1 transponder, don't just use the first one on the list, ie one that actually has TV channels on it, so for the Aurora service it would be 12407 V 30000-2/3

[viewer]

Ok fellas, lets try help him more.
Who has this receiver?....Strong 4653X receiver....that is what he has.
Whoever has one, could give him a step by step guide to make sure he has the lnb and transponder details setup correctly.
I would then suggest that you go up to the dish, and have another person whatch the tv for you....remember to tell this person to be VERY PATIENT as this is the MOST IMPORTANT part of the game.
When you start moving your dish, move it only in increments of about 5mm at a time and stop, this will give the receiver a chance to "see" the signal. If you merely keep moving it, the receiver will never lock onto the signal, and this is possibly (??) why you are missing the satellite.
As I said earlier, if on the first sweep you miss it, go up a bit, and repaet the slow exercise over n over.
If you still don't get it, you are likely to be shooting too high.
If that is the case, go to your original starting position ( remember I said to mark the pole) drop it down in angle a fraction, and repeat your procedures.
I would not recommend that you use the
12407 V 30000-2/3 transponder, as you are likely to get C1 confused with the satellite "next door to it" that uses exactly the same frequency. Use the one I mentioned earlier, as this is the pay beam into Australia, and you will get this easy, as it is a real strong signal.

Keep going, you can do it....you will get a great feeling when you do!

Fella's, I don't have his receiver to guide him, but someone here must.
I reckon it may be a problem with the receiver set to a 11300 lnb, when he says that Mod Shop gave him a universal...thoughts??

I could recommend he go to a "neighbour" satellite site for assistance, but I hope we can do it for him here, before flicking him elsewhere?

Thanks all...good luck mate.

[knowabit1]

I am south of river and had problems (kept getting wrong satellites) so i bought a compass from big w, put decoder on to Aljazeera and lined the dish us at 58 degrees east of north (302 degrees) and fine tune it by giving it a 1 or 2 centimetre horizontal adjustment and a bit of elevation to maximize signal quality

[viewer]

I used this address in your suburb, and this is what dishpointer says.........
Address: 18 Grand Boulevard,Joondalup western australia
Latitude: -31.7359°
Longitude: 115.7684°

Satellite: 156.0E Optus C1
Elevation: 33.2°
Azimuth (true): 58.1°
Azimuth (magn.): 59.7°

Your Location Satellite Data Dish Setup Data
Latitude: -31.7359°
Longitude: 115.7684° Name: 156.0E Optus C1
Distance: 38333km Motor Latitude: -31.7°
Declination Angle: 5.2°
Dish Elevation: °
Elevation: 33.2°
Azimuth (true): 58.1°
Azimuth (magn.): 59.7°
LNB Skew [?]: 46.2°


Going on what knowabit1 tells you(saying he lined it up at 58 degrees) , he has hit the same data that the system is telling you.

All you really need to do is point as per all the data, and it hould be easy-peazy....

[beer4life]

Make sure your mast is Plumb.
Sure, you can do it with it laying on the ground, but you are only making things a little harder later on. For motorised it is essential.

This Transponder is unique for C1 and saves confusion with other nearby Sats.
12367 V / 27800

Menu
Installation/ OK
Enter Pin / 0000 /OK
Dish Setting /OK
Satellite / Optus C1 /Ku
\/ LNB Power ON
V LNB Type / Single / Universal / OCS
V LNB Freq / 11300 / use < or > for other types.
If Universal.....9750 / 10600 / 11700
V 22 KHz ON
V DiSEqC Switch ( OFF ) (Mine is ON using 2 motorised Dishes ).
These will not show if above OFF.
Committed / 1
Uncommitted / 1
Exit/save

Follow previous posts to get a lock and scan.

Use this or similar on the mast so that you can freely swing the dish without it slipping down.

PS: "", 58 E is not 302, it is 058 E.

[cjcrow]

I want to say a big THANK YOU to all that have helped me, I actually did it by myself hahaha

Ive got 90% signal with 97% quality.

Now I get the optus test channel so thats all good, but when I scan through the channels, for example Seven Central has 98%, but when I go around to say ABC WA, the quality drops to around 25%. Will this be like this til I get my card activated, or does it need further tuning?

And again a big thank you to everyone, especially viewer and beer4life.

[beer4life]

I want to say a big THANK YOU to all that have helped me, I actually did it by myself hahaha

Ive got 90% signal with 97% quality.

Now I get the optus test channel so thats all good, but when I scan through the channels, for example Seven Central has 98%, but when I go around to say ABC WA, the quality drops to around 25%. Will this be like this til I get my card activated, or does it need further tuning?

And again a big thank you to everyone, especially viewer and beer4life.

I think your dish seems to be set OK but,
since ABC WA is on a different transponder, it suggests that your box has the wrong Frequency or Symbol rate for those channels. Check Lyngsat.

12367 V / 27800
12407 V / 30000
12527 V / 30000
12728 V / 24450

[viewer]

I want to say a big THANK YOU to all that have helped me, I actually did it by myself hahaha

Ive got 90% signal with 97% quality.

Now I get the optus test channel so thats all good, but when I scan through the channels, for example Seven Central has 98%, but when I go around to say ABC WA, the quality drops to around 25%. Will this be like this til I get my card activated, or does it need further tuning?

And again a big thank you to everyone, especially viewer and beer4life.

Yeeha....well done buddy for sticking at it.

Your card won't make the signal stronger...only correct dish pointing and lnb skew (the turning of the lnb to get maximum signal) will do that.

Have yourself a breather and pat yourself for a while. Ensure you tightened things up fairly good for the moment, and mark your known good settings on the post/pole with a good durable texta.If you "fiddle" with things again, you will then easily be back in that good position again.

Without knowing your Strong set up's (beer4life could help again), it may be a good idea to delete some of the channels you have, and do a rescan. When on things like Aurora, you should have a setting somewhere on the receiver that lets you enable a "NIT or network scan"...this may help you a bit.

Go to the site to see all the frequency paramters for C1.



As for help...no problem, glad we could help, and plenty here help each other, and that is why we are here...it's a pretty good place when your used to it.

[cjcrow]

Ok guys, another question. Ive got the transponder on 12 407 to go green, but all the others are red on about 90-95% level with about 20% quality. Why would one be green but all the rest red?

Bit late tonight but if its only minor adjustments I can do it tomorro after work

[viewer]

Make sure the other ones are set exactly to the parameters of C1 details on Lyngsat.

Make sure of skew of lnb

Make sure you are not on Optus D2...

If you remember before, I said a neighbour satellite had those same numbers.
Try some of these frequencies on this link....if they load, bad luck, wrong satellite...you would need to go slightly more to your East, and possibly up a touch.

Let us know.....we are here.

[viewer]

Hmmm..I had a re-read...you say you are on C1 as you see the channels on Aurora.....I'd bet then you need to spin the lnb whilst on a horizontal transponder to bring it in. When checking, always test both horizontal and vertical positions before final tighten of lnb...should have told you that too I guess.

Tomorrow sounds good....

[beer4life]

Ok guys, another question. Ive got the transponder on 12 407 to go green, but all the others are red on about 90-95% level with about 20% quality. Why would one be green but all the rest red?

Bit late tonight but if its only minor adjustments I can do it tomorro after work

You may not be on C1.
D1 and D2, either side of C1, also have 12407.
That is why I told you to use 12367 V / 27800, it is unique to C1.....

[viewer]

Did mod shop pre scan in all the channels, or did you do all the scanning in?

If it was done before hand, I would suggest you delete the channels loaded ( not the transponder details in the menu though), and then scan again.

[davo]

How are you going to get the card activated living in Joondalup? that doesn't qualify you to have it, it supposed to be regional.

Only 10mins away from you in Malaga is a Sat shop that could have helped you with your install. If you get stuck they are sciteq from memory is their name.

good luck for sure.

[viewer]

Maybe he only wants it for SBS and ABC...that's quite legal.

[davo]

Also he shouldn't need to twist the LNB at all. I know someone only mins away and their lnb is straight up and down all quality perfect & signal strength too.

Davo

[viewer]

Davo,

Every lnb is slightly different in it's set up.

Yes, all the Austar and Foxtel installs look similar, but I have plenty of my own purchased lnb's that sit in slightly different positions than the paytv one's.He also says he has a universal, so it will be different.

He still HAS TO skew his lnb correctly, or everything is a total waste of time, and will lead to signal loss/pixellation.

[davo]

I have set up a few dishes in Joondalup and surrounding area over the years for mates and they have been with universal LNBs and "NONE" of them have been twisted, Im saying he "SHOULDN'T" have to. I myself am very local to his area and I see the same skyline as him.

[viewer]

Ok, you win....good luck crow...I'll let the locals help you now.

[davo]

Ok, you win....good luck crow...I'll let the locals help you now.

Nah mate wasn't about winning or loosing.

You have done all the work helping him, I'm not going to help him, I just pointed out that he shouldn't need to twist that all mate, don't be like that dude.

I have given up on satellite stuff these days, I only think his problem is more to do with something else. Twisting it may work for him as you say all are different.

I only use Acer LNBs so who knows.

Your info without it he wouldnt have got this far.

Davo