Gemini 4.3.0
Gemini Image 4.3.0 for DM500
New:
* EPG-Refresh On the basis of the Enigma-Timer (BP->Extras, Beta)
* In the Information menu own matrix for network Devices
* create own weather.xml for your Country in RSS/Weather Addon
* Dreamnetcast now with Favorites administration
Fix + update:
* eMail-Checker und IMAP (Unread e-mails remain unread, problems with GMail)
* Pictures turn lasts only half as long, all formats ca now be rotated (rotate with < 0 > on your Remote Control)
If you find that the blue pannel addons is locked edit your /var/etc/init file and change to something like this.
ifconfig eth0 hw ether 0034:99:99:99
the new image checks your mac address and it needs to start with 00
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Why does it do this MAC check for?Originally Posted by vnboost
Gemini Image 4.3.0 for DM500
If you find that the blue pannel addons is locked edit your /var/etc/init file and change to something like this.
ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00
the new image checks your mac address and it needs to start with 00
hehe.... comes up with a message saying 'This isn't a Dreambox...its a nightmare'...or something like that.
I guess it's Gemini's team attempt at humor??
Jumpstart
Hmm, now some where on the message board here I said it is time for the clone resellers to change imagesLooks like another prediction comes true
Might be to fix the duplicate MAC address issue me thinks.
Might wack it on 50 or so 7020's just cause i can....
With the release of the GP 4.3, we have added a feature to the Blue panel to detect fake Dreambox clones. We want to show our protest against clones and replicas of Dreamboxes. It cannot be in our interest, to allow the fake boxes to hard the big dreambox community and in fact our beloved hobby.
Like some of you should know, some weeks ago a new box came to the market. It’s sold as a completely new development.
But if you check that box exactly, you will soon find out that not only the same images, software and drivers were used, but also the nearly identical hardware, such as for example in the Dreambox DM500. According to some owners of this new box, it is being shipped and sold with a preinstalled Gemini Image, which is not in our interest. Even in the manufacturers forum, Gemini images where posted with a warning “runs only on Box XYZ”.
We as a Dreambox board and Developer of the Gemini Images can’t tolerate this trend. It is not in our interest that our know-how, our knowledge of the Dreamboxes, and our time is used by a third party manufactorer to sell his copies with our software
In fact, the truth is that these manufactorers are themselves not able to provide a self developed image for their receivers.
The Blue Panel server is operated, managed and financed by private funds. Also the support we offer for the Gemini images and the genuine Dreamboxes is exploited by the fake clone developers and owners.
We can not prevent these people from using the Gemini images, but what we can do is making it as hard as possible for these people to gain money with our work. Therefore, we implemented in the images that are also running on the boxes described above a lock for the BluePanel server. The detection mechanism, whether it is a replica or a Dreambox, has been activated in the current DM500 release. Other Box types will follow. If a box is identified as a non-genuine clone of a Dreambox, the access to the BluePanel is locked.
Since this method of detection is still very new, it could unfortunately occur that even genuine boxes are identified as fakes and as a consequence the BluePanel would be locked also on original Dreamboxes. In the meantime, there are some known problems where repaired boxes can’t by recognized as genuine due to the replaced hardware parts. We will do everything the reduce the number of false identifications but nevertheless we cannot decrease the error rate to zero, as the necessary data from DMM is not available. If your Box is falsely identified as a fake box, please understand that we do this in order to maintain the Dreambox community.
We ask all users of our images to do everything possible to ensure that our hobby can live on and we will fight together against such unfair methods. We as developers want our Gemini images only to run on Dreamboxes...
The IHAD/Gemini Team
Does this mean we will end up with clone gemini images too.
So let me get this right, we have
The genuine Dreambox
The Dreambox clones and
The Fake Dreambox clones
I hope mine is the real dreambox clone and not a Fake clone
Fancy that, a team of pirates employing counter measures in their software.
And in in open source environment......boring.....
Luckily they havent offered anything new in the last 10 images released....they are all stable now so who cares about the new ones anyway. I still use 3.6
please understand that we do this in order to maintain the Dreambox community.
building a community by restricting it.. get a life!
well that didn't last long!
version 4.3.1 is out with no stupid locking tricks!Our clone box recognition mechanism caused large waves in the last days and many opinions have been told to us. On the one hand there have been the enraged owners of clone, who had to install their addons manually now without Blue panel. Then there have been the people who simply did not understand Linux and the GPL and accused us of GPL-breach. Also a financial dependence or support from Dream Multimedia and or sponsors was subordinated to us.
On the other hand there have been over 1500 users of our forum who singned our explanation.
All in all our action was accepted very positively and we achieved our intended goal to give an impulse the owners of clone boxes. There have also been cases in which people who thought they owned a genuine Dreambox noticed because of this action that they are owners of a clone box. Too our own surprise according to unconfirmed messages, now one of the manufacturer changed over to supply their own images.
Recapitulatory we note, it was never our intention to insert a waterproof recognition and to get in a Cat-and-mouse game between us and the box manufacturer. Our intension was to push a general discussion to create a consciousness on the clone and reproduction problem and to disasociate us from the clones, too. In the context of our possibilities as image developer we have used the one and only available possibility to make our point of view clear. As image-developer we have absolutly no influence on sponsors, dealers or Dream Multimedia. Our influence on the persons and companies involved in this relationship is very limited and lacked also on support from some places. In any case we get attention on our displeasure and we did not send newsletters of our sponsors containing information about clones. We will keep this in the future.
As we all are Dreambox fans we would like to say clearly, that it is in the exclusive responsibility of Dreammultimedia to proceed against clones. Only DMM has the possibilities (e.g. legal) which might be the only effective method against clones.
For us as Gemini developer and operators of the IHAD this action is now finished. With the upcoming release 4.3.1 of the Gemini Project the clone recognition will be deactivated. We nevertheless ask everyone to use its influence to proceed against clones.
Changes to 4.3.0
* Pictures (JPEG, BMP, GIF und PNG) can now be displayed on the Dreambox 500
* Fix of the EPG display in the overview when there are mutiple languages in the EPG
well that didn't last long!
version 4.3.1 is out with no stupid locking tricks!
Too late....
whats too late?
Sorry z80 but I still prefer the gemini image over others don't be stubbourn lol
Chief
Too late to retrieve my enthusisasm for gemini.
Gemini cracked out of turn. The clone issue isn't their problem, It's DMM's.
But, their harvesting MAC and IP addresses represents a threat to any one using their product. It good that they changed, but, they should be held accountable, and promice not to attempt such actions in the future.
A good poll question would be, "Do you trust Gemini after this switch"
IMO
IMnobody
I somehow do not see the same issues as you raise, but I am sure this instance has already turned into an Urban Myth.
I would suggest 90 + % of users on this message board alone have dynamic IP's so what does capturing an IP really mean? It means you are a user of say BigPond, wow there are so many.
Now couple the IP with the MAC which can be changed at anytime, exactly what do we have here?
Maybe at best a graph showing that 76% of all Gemini 4.3.0 users from OZ are running clones, or modified their MAC address. But hang on you can not login you are crippled locally on your LAN, so no graph either.
So what do you do next?
Maybe in version 4.3.1 allow the access and then graph by country the exact extent of the problem.
Employ 20,000 IT staff to sit on all the local DSLAM's and checking (with a court order of course) with the ISP about the account who has just violated copyright? I think not. If you think so (yes they can do it) you are giving to many people far to much credit.
jonc - agreed mate
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