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    Default Unknown ATR

    ..... working (sorta kinda)...
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    c: done something wrong

    The switch should be in for phoenix mode.

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    ok tried again with switch in....

    led 1 off, led 2 off

    same result??
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    try it with a known card to check comms ect

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    ...... icprog working
    Last edited by z1gg33; 22-08-09 at 01:29 AM. Reason: edit.
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    You can even use phone cards for testing purposes of course
    When you do things right, people won't be sure that you have done anything at all

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    Try this:

    On Jaycar MK II, & Using FMCard

    1. Jumpers set at Phoenix & 6.0 MHZ (JP1 Pins 1 & 2, JP2 Pins 2 & 3)
    2. White Button set to IN
    3. Go to the options tab first
    4. set Com Port (e.g. Com-1)
    5. set programmer to 6 Mhz
    6. Click on Mouse Tab
    7. insert card, (contacts down)
    8. click connect

    A programmed Goldie should give up the information your looking for,

    I assume you have the .ocx files ?

    & a working full serial cable ?

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    pm sent...

    i registered these ocx files

    Comdlg32.ocx
    MSCOMCTL.OCX
    mscomm32.ocx
    mscomm32.ocx
    tabctl32.ocx
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    ................
    Last edited by z1gg33; 22-08-09 at 12:22 AM.
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    I like this program way better

    When you do things right, people won't be sure that you have done anything at all

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    this is what the card reads in icprog

    Address program code
    0000: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0008: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0010: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0018: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0020: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0028: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0030: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0038: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0040: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0048: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0050: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0058: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0060: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0068: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0070: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0078: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0080: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0088: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0090: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0098: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    00A0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    00A8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    00B0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    00B8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    00C0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    00C8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    00D0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    00D8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    00E0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    00E8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    00F0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    00F8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0100: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0108: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0110: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0118: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0120: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0128: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0130: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0138: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0140: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0148: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0150: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0158: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0160: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0168: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0170: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0178: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0180: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0188: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0190: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0198: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    01A0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    01A8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    01B0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    01B8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    01C0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    01C8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    01D0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    01D8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    01E0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    01E8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    01F0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    01F8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0200: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0208: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0210: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0218: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0220: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0228: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0230: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0238: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0240: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0248: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0250: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0258: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0260: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0268: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0270: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0278: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0280: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0288: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0290: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0298: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    02A0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    02A8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    02B0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    02B8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    02C0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    02C8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    02D0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    02D8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    02E0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    02E8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    02F0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    02F8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0300: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0308: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0310: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0318: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0320: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0328: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0330: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0338: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0340: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0348: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0350: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0358: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0360: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0368: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0370: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0378: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0380: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0388: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0390: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    0398: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    03A0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    03A8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    03B0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    03B8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    03C0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    03C8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    03D0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    03D8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    03E0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    03E8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    03F0: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    03F8: 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF 3FFF
    address eeprom data
    0000: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
    0008: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
    0010: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
    0018: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
    0020: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
    0028: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
    0030: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
    0038: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

    so blank right? going by whiteox's pdf

    Jaycar
    "These two programming functions are selected via the white button switch. The
    IN (or NORMAL) position is to read/write to the eeprom and the OUT (or PIC
    PGM) position is to read/write to the PIC."

    and

    "IC-Prog will read the program then the data area and display the
    results. A new or blank chip will display all Fs. A previously used chip will
    display data."
    Last edited by z1gg33; 22-08-09 at 01:43 AM.
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    updated.... so its ok to try and make a card now?
    very excited!

    thanks for all those that helped steer me in the right direction. (all new to me)
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    Yes looks like a blank card,

    (assuming it is all working correctly)

    Do you know what type of card it is, gold, silver, etc...
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    no I dont know... it was given to me, whats the best way to figure out what kind it is?
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    Is it a particular colour ? or anything written on it ?

    if you know someone with a Cas 3 they can put it in the Slot & it will tell you what type of of card it is,

    If you still do not know, it's not easy with the Jaycar, except trial & error (i.e try to program as a Goldie, try to program as a Silver etc....)

    not a good card to learn on,

    You could buy a new Card then you know what it is before you start,

    if you buy a Goldie, & or a silver & they both happen to be White, I would suggest writing on the card what it is,

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    well i just made a backup in icprog called original.hex with type pic16f84a
    tried to program it back to eeprom (button in) verify failed.
    tried to program it back to the pic (button out)... success

    now reads from icprog
    address program code
    0000: 2223 0065 3E7F 0062 3009 00A0 018C 080C #eb.#Œ.
    0008: 2228 21F3 0A8C 0BA0 2807 3090 21F3 080A (Œ#..
    0010: 3908 21F3 30F0 058A 301B 0084 0A84 2211 .Š.„„.
    0018: 0080 1E84 2816 3020 061D 1903 2892 3A01 €„....’.
    0020: 1903 28AB 0A8A 300C 00AF 082F 3E69 2378 .Š./ix
    0028: 061D 1903 282E 0BAF 2825 280D 082F 3C07 ...%./.
    0030: 1C03 2836 081D 08A0 1D03 21F3 082F 3E39 .6.#./9
    0038: 018A 0082 2857 2A2E 2861 2917 29B7 2849 Š‚W.a.I
    0040: 28B6 284B 2982 2847 2847 306E 280E 306B K‚GGn.k
    .... etc

    address eeprom data
    0000: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
    0008: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
    0010: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
    ...etc

    cool.
    edit: card is white in colour (only) me feels.....
    edit:2... gone looking for a manual for it. must be a pdf somewhere (jaycar)
    edit 3: this looks the business
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    if its a white card it maybe a 16f84
    try to load ghost gold and read it back
    its been a long time but icprog needs a loader to load the eeprom
    in the settings somewhere
    you can load the pic then load the eeprom via crd file

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    Just adding some other VALUABLE info








    atr 3B 9F 21 0E 49 52 44 45 54 4F 20 41 43 53 XX XX XX XX XX XX



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    I like using Blackprog then ggedit
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    I tried ICprog over and over and never got a working card from it.

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