Reply With QuoteHello....... Pli-iOLITE....GOOD-BYE .....GEMINI
AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM THE IHAD/Gemini Team
With the release of the GP 4.3, we have added a feature to the Blue panel to detect fake Dreambox clones. We want to show our protest against clones and replicas of Dreamboxes. It cannot be in our interest, to allow the fake boxes to hard the big dreambox community and in fact our beloved hobby.
Like some of you should know, some weeks ago a new box came to the market. It’s sold as a completely new development.
But if you check that box exactly, you will soon find out that not only the same images, software and drivers were used, but also the nearly identical hardware, such as for example in the Dreambox DM500. According to some owners of this new box, it is being shipped and sold with a preinstalled Gemini Image, which is not in our interest. Even in the manufacturers forum, Gemini images where posted with a warning “runs only on Box XYZ”.
We as a Dreambox board and Developer of the Gemini Images can’t tolerate this trend. It is not in our interest that our know-how, our knowledge of the Dreamboxes, and our time is used by a third party manufactorer to sell his copies with our software
In fact, the truth is that these manufactorers are themselves not able to provide a self developed image for their receivers.
The Blue Panel server is operated, managed and financed by private funds. Also the support we offer for the Gemini images and the genuine Dreamboxes is exploited by the fake clone developers and owners.
We can not prevent these people from using the Gemini images, but what we can do is making it as hard as possible for these people to gain money with our work. Therefore, we implemented in the images that are also running on the boxes described above a lock for the BluePanel server. The detection mechanism, whether it is a replica or a Dreambox, has been activated in the current DM500 release. Other Box types will follow. If a box is identified as a non-genuine clone of a Dreambox, the access to the BluePanel is locked.
Since this method of detection is still very new, it could unfortunately occur that even genuine boxes are identified as fakes and as a consequence the BluePanel would be locked also on original Dreamboxes. In the meantime, there are some known problems where repaired boxes can’t by recognized as genuine due to the replaced hardware parts. We will do everything the reduce the number of false identifications but nevertheless we cannot decrease the error rate to zero, as the necessary data from DMM is not available. If your Box is falsely identified as a fake box, please understand that we do this in order to maintain the Dreambox community.
We ask all users of our images to do everything possible to ensure that our hobby can live on and we will fight together against such unfair methods. We as developers want our Gemini images only to run on Dreamboxes...
The IHAD/Gemini Team
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Hello....... Pli-iOLITE....GOOD-BYE .....GEMINI
Tested the current 4.30 image and can confirm it working with my 2 personal clones.
If its only the MAC address they are checking what a piss weak effort of detecting clones... If it locks you out of the bluepanel addons server just install everything manually or creat yourself a local/www personal server.
Been waiting for something like to start was just a matter of time...
sorry to hear you guys going down that road.- Clones are part of life - cya Gemini. not selling my clone gear so i can rebuy originals. where the logic in that.
Chieflets
z80 are you changing from a pli-phobe to a pli-phile ?
welcome aboard mate
Originally Posted by nfnovice
Stuff them all....
i think we will have the austech logo instead on the next clones
I'm wondering where people are expecting to buy 'originals' from
If DMM had gone with a different business model its unlikely that clones would have even appeared. Their prices have been ridiculous from day one , dealer prices and conditions were crap and they tried to screw every possible cent out of consumers.
If they had gone with a lower affordable price they would have ended up with higher sales. First it was grey imports that saved consumers money ( which showed how much we were getting screwed in Australia ) , now its clones that has made them affordable.
Its hard to feel sorry for them in my opinion ( note : MY opinion )
I had a power supply issue with a dm 7025 and when the technition inspected it ,I was told the board was made in CHINA.
I had paid over $900 for the receiver.
How does DMM justify these high prices if they are probably all made in asia.
Just for the hell of it;
So if you run linux/unix at all - turn on arpwatch and see if you have good or bad clones or original. The dump below is a copy of a report when I did a software MAC address change from original MAC to new MAC (just for the hell of it)
This dump from PCL2007
hostname: dreambox
ip address: 192.168.1.102
new ethernet address: 025:38
34
new ethernet vendor: <unknown>
old ethernet address: 0:9c0:2:4a
old ethernet vendor: Dream-Multimedia-Tv GmbH
now imagine this data being sent somewhere
I just got a shitload of clone 7020's.
The stupid gemini countermeasure has NO effect.
They have wasted their time, and spoilt their reputations.
Anyway, who cares about the image...its the emus that count.
How much for a box z80????
See his thread in the Buy Sell and Trade forum Vic.
read my last post here:
Last edited by toor; 28-02-08 at 08:01 PM.
Just a bunch of spoiled kids i say, i am taking my bat and ball and going home, as what was said before if they did not try and rip people off with there overpriced boxes then there would not be a problem, And do you really beleave that these original boxes are made in europe with top end parts i don't think so.
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