240 Volt Plug getting hot

**moeee** · 03-09-09, 01:38 PM

I got a fan heater - 2000 Watts

I run it in the bathroom and after maybe 15 minutes the Plug got stinkin' hot.
I figured there must be a poor connection so I cut off the molded-on plug and put on another one.

This one is getting hot too.
The heat appears to be starting from the Active Pin.

The screws holding the wires are tight, and the outlet seems to be fine.
This new plug is made of soft plastic, and the pin sort of melted the plastic.
VERY HOT.

I figure there must be poor electrical contact between the pin and the outlet.
The neutral pin doesn't even get warm.

I ain't tried it yet, but I'm considering plugging the heater into another room outlet to see if it still gets the plug stinkin' hot.

Could someone fill me in as to whats going on here before I burn me house down?

**beer4life** · 03-09-09, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by moeee

I got a fan heater - 2000 Watts

I run it in the bathroom and after maybe 15 minutes the Plug got stinkin' hot.
I figured there must be a poor connection so I cut off the molded-on plug and put on another one.

This one is getting hot too.
The heat appears to be starting from the Active Pin.

The screws holding the wires are tight, and the outlet seems to be fine.
This new plug is made of soft plastic, and the pin sort of melted the plastic.
VERY HOT.

I figure there must be poor electrical contact between the pin and the outlet.
The neutral pin doesn't even get warm.

I ain't tried it yet, but I'm considering plugging the heater into another room outlet to see if it still gets the plug stinkin' hot.

Could someone fill me in as to whats going on here before I burn me house down?

You need to replace your outlet socket/wall plate.

**omega99** · 04-09-09, 12:32 AM

ditto replace the power outlet

**Moof** · 04-09-09, 08:00 AM

Get a licenced electrician to replace your socket outlet on the wall

**moeee** · 04-09-09, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by Moof

Get a licenced electrician to replace your socket outlet on the wall

I'ld rather live a little on the wild side and attempt the replacement myself.

Obviously it couldn't be too difficult or surely the replacements wouldn't be so generally available to purchase.

But the main reason I'ld prefer to do it is because the prices these licensed electricians would charge me would be unviable.

Too much red tape and beaurocratic bullshit in this world already without having me add further to it.

And laziness.

I mean - how hard could it be?

**best4less** · 04-09-09, 08:45 AM

DxE=C+(y+z)=W\X+F=

Lets see

X= fee for electrician
Y=total cost of house (including burnt rubbish removal)
Z=price of land
W=total land and house cost
C=cost of human life
D=average working years of a Human
E=average yearly wage
F=the cost to get your IQ tested

**beer4life** · 04-09-09, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by moeee

I'ld rather live a little on the wild side and attempt the replacement myself.

Obviously it couldn't be too difficult or surely the replacements wouldn't be so generally available to purchase.

Originally Posted by moeee

But the main reason I'ld prefer to do it is because the prices these licensed electricians would charge me would be unviable.

Too much red tape and beaurocratic bullshit in this world already without having me add further to it.

And laziness.

I mean - how hard could it be?

If you don't know what you're doing, Fatal.

**iwacelect** · 04-09-09, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by best4less

DxE=C+(y+z)=WX+F=

Lets see

X= fee for electrician
Y=total cost of house (including burnt rubbish removal)
Z=price of land
W=total land and house cost
C=cost of human life
D=average working years of a Human
E=average yearly wage
F=the cost to get your IQ tested

thats priceless B4L, well done, oh and he'd better get f'd real sooooon!

**LeroyPatrol** · 04-09-09, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by beer4life

[CENTER]

If you don't know what you're doing, Fatal.

especially if the red and the black or was it the blue and the brown or the brown and the black.....gee which wire went where?
We can see the next post after it's changed, whay does my heater zap me when I plug it in?

Cheers,
Leroy

**moeee** · 04-09-09, 10:22 AM

I figure an IQ of 126 should be capable of replacing the GPO.

And I also figure that 8 years of experience repairing television and other electronic equipment should also qualify as to capable.

I figure if you shove that into your Formula, it pretty much cancels out both sides to give me a fair chance of getting it right.

Thanks for your concerns about my welfare anyway.
Was more concerned about why the plug was getting hot.

Just shows why the world initiates Pagan Rites to celebrate the birth of the Messiah.

**LeroyPatrol** · 04-09-09, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by moeee

And I also figure that 8 years of experience repairing television and other electronic equipment should also qualify as to capable.

Now we're all wondering why you asked why it's getting hot :P

Leroy

**iwacelect** · 04-09-09, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by LeroyPatrol

Now we're all wondering why you asked why it's getting hot :P

Leroy

exactly!

**best4less** · 04-09-09, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by moeee

Just shows why the world initiates Pagan Rites to celebrate the birth of the Messiah.

The Price of eggs in Russia are going up this morning

But serious it's all in the house insurance that causes the people that know what their doing not to do it that's all we are not covered plain and simple

And you right about me Equation i left out the

G= fun
J= Tongue and Cheek
L= No harm no foul

**moeee** · 04-09-09, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by LeroyPatrol

Now we're all wondering why you asked why it's getting hot :P

Leroy

So all those capacitors with Low ESR you replaced over the years, any idea why the ESR was low?

Would it enable the repair to be any different having known?

I am technician, not an engineer.
I can put things right, but it don't necessarily follow that I need to know why things are as they are.

Sometimes that metal thing with iron on the end is known as a hammer.
Regardless of its name , it still belts them nails in just the same.

When I replace parts, I prefer to know why the original failed because that becomes knowledge, which improves ability.

**iwacelect** · 04-09-09, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by moeee

So all those capacitors with Low ESR you replaced over the years, any idea why the ESR was low?

Would it enable the repair to be any different having known?

I am technician, not an engineer.
I can put things right, but it don't necessarily follow that I need to know why things are as they are.

Sometimes that metal thing with iron on the end is known as a hammer.
Regardless of its name , it still belts them nails in just the same.

When I replace parts, I prefer to know why the original failed because that becomes knowledge, which improves ability.

please stop....my sides hurt.....no more...please stop......

**ozvic** · 04-09-09, 12:40 PM

Wouldnt most Technicians have a Plug and Socket License? Surely this would be enough to be capable of removing a wall socket (switch off mains supply) remove three wires, fit socket and test that it is correctly wired. Bunnings have a nice little 3 pin plug with neons that indicate if wiring is correct or faulty.

**gulliver** · 04-09-09, 12:43 PM

And the plug should also be replaced as it will damage the new powerpoint again.

**Mgoldbe1** · 04-09-09, 01:04 PM

How hard could it be??....it's only 3 wires...and only 2 do anything....

Hope you have an RCD in your switchboard just incase...

**best4less** · 04-09-09, 01:15 PM

And here i am thinking it only takes one wire to kill you, I am laughing now

**iwacelect** · 04-09-09, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Mgoldbe1

How hard could it be??....it's only 3 wires...and only 2 do anything....

Hope you have an RCD in your switchboard just incase...

only 2 do anything????????????????

I'm glad your not going anywhere near me with that knowledge

what do they say "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing"