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    Any idea roughly what they are up for vic in total ?

    Costs against them would be a bit I reckon ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanity View Post
    Any idea roughly what they are up for vic in total ?

    Costs against them would be a bit I reckon ?
    Would be getting close on 1.5 million

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    probably made enough out of itechworld already to pay it off........

    all assets are probably in wifes name etc. etc.

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    One of the appeal judges stated:
    The Mod Shops were alleged to have assisted in the supply of pirated smartcards to customers, thereby enabling them to obtain access to the Foxtel subscription television service without paying subscription fees.
    From the Foxtel site:
    In 2004, FOXTEL initiated civil proceedings ... over allegedly dealing in equipment, software and information to assist consumers pirate subscription television signals via ‘card sharing’ (a form of illegal piracy using broadcast streams from the Optus C1 satellite and illegal authorisation over the internet).

    Foxtel don't seem to know the difference between selling pirated cards and selling the equipment to engage in card sharing. There is a world of difference. Selling card sharing equipment is quite legal although card splitters may or may not be. Foxtel seem to be deliberately muddying the waters. My understanding of the original civil case is that it had nothing to do with card sharing and that card sharing only started after the demise of the gold cards.

    The point is that the legality or otherwise of 'card sharing' has yet to be decided, despite Foxtel winning this appeal.

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    BTW, the answer to the forum heading 'What Happens to Pirates' is that they get filthy rich, and any court imposed penalty or damages is usually small change. Why else would you pursue a costly and doubtful appeal unless you had lots of bananas to throw around?

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    Thats all he did was sell the modshop and open itechworld under his other family members names and now he hasn't learn't a thing he sells boxes on ebay modded
    "ready for gamma's" and poxtel won't get a cent out of him as he went bankrupt long before.
    He's set up anouther server I was offered a client for $200 plus hardware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by okthen View Post
    and poxtel won't get a cent out of him as he went bankrupt long before.
    Nope he hasnt done that YET!!!!!!

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    Shit , thats surprising if true as Foxtel can get a court order to seize assets I think ??

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    Thumbs up Yep Shitel are getting richer, Poor are getting poorer

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanity View Post
    Shit , thats surprising if true as Foxtel can get a court order to seize assets I think ??
    If greedy corporations like Shitel continue to charge like wounded bulls for shit repeats day in day out, no wonder people will find another alternatives to get card sharing with family members, I'd even join up an org that can offer this service at a greatly reduced rate compared to these corporate ripp-offs.

    I think Rupert is rich enough so I support these little guy's 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanity View Post
    Shit , thats surprising if true as Foxtel can get a court order to seize assets I think ??
    ahhaha i dont think so i dont own anything, i moved it all to other peoples names. All im doing is costing foxtel more money because iv got nothing.

    HAAHHA

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    Quote Originally Posted by bk2008 View Post
    If greedy corporations like Shitel continue to charge like wounded bulls for shit repeats day in day out, no wonder people will find another alternatives to get card sharing with family members, I'd even join up an org that can offer this service at a greatly reduced rate compared to these corporate ripp-offs.

    I think Rupert is rich enough so I support these little guy's 100%
    So by your reasoning, we should all go and steal petrol beacause it's so expensive (and I have no doubt the fuel companies are ripping us also) and ditto for anything we feel is overpriced? Well maybe fuel isn't the best example as it's a necessity, tv sure aint though.

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    Good in theory until you have to pay your own lawyers ..... I reckon the appeal would have cost Mr Haddad >$250k

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    Quote Originally Posted by SELECTV View Post
    Good in theory until you have to pay your own lawyers ..... I reckon the appeal would have cost Mr Haddad >$250k
    I would think you would be correct. But that would also be spare change to what was made over a number of years.

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    If I remember right the Bankruptcy act doesnt protect you from court awarded penalties, Income Tax and Child Support. Still, its hard getting blood out of a stone if all the blood has been syphoned off to a bunch of rocks

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    Default There is a documentary called Steal This Film II

    Quote Originally Posted by JIM_WALKER66 View Post
    So by your reasoning, we should all go and steal petrol beacause it's so expensive (and I have no doubt the fuel companies are ripping us also) and ditto for anything we feel is overpriced? Well maybe fuel isn't the best example as it's a necessity, tv sure aint though.
    Seriously though, everyone should see this Doco, It will open up peoples eyes.
    Then make a comment after you see it. Oh you can download it for free from mininova


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    All I want to say is that sellers were the primary reason our hobby suffered in the V1 days.

    Sellers shafted us and made a killing doing it.

    I have no doubt this will happen again with whiteys.

    They use this hobby to gain a profit. They have no interest in the hobby other than using it to start their own businesses and are just leeches.
    If they were bona fide hobbyists, the data to enable us to program gammas would be freely available, not for sale..

    Sellers are the bain of this hobby, not the martyrs..........

    So you comments insupport for them are quite puzzling

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    Pirates will be made to walk the plank

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    Default When will you start walking the PLANK!

    Quote Originally Posted by shortcity View Post
    Pirates will be made to walk the plank

    later
    You hypocrite, Everyone is a pirate, you mean to tell me that in your entire music collection you have not once downloaded a song without paying, or downloaded a doco without paying? or borrowed a friends or relo's Microsoft Office Suite or any other software. Oh how sweet it is to have something for nothing.
    if all the above is true, then you probably come from a nother planet than that of Earth. If you are not a pirate, what are you doing on Austech. Or did you think Austech is here for hobbyists, WELL OFF COARSE EVERYONE HERE ARE JUST HOBBYISTS! WHAT ARE YOU THINKING MY MAN?

    As I said, you better start walking the plank AAAAAARRRRRR Maities.

    From a proud pirate

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    I wouldnt push my luck if I was you bk2008. I can guarantee you that anyone caught selling pirated pay tv cards on this site will be banned quick smart.

    You are already off to a bad start. Dont make it worse.

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