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    Default High strength No quality ????????

    Hi all,

    Here is the problem, borrowed a gamma on Monday and put into my UEC990, change the dish alignment, etc.... scanned and nothing comes up. To cut a long story short, I have changed stb's and LNB's, I now have 80% signal strength but zero quality. I can see the EPG showing all the channels but i get this message E32-52 searching for signal. A mate came over with some fancy gear and confirmed I am pointing at C1.

    Your thoughts would be appreciated.

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    I have tested the card and STB at a mates place no probs. This is driving me NUTS.



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    hmm... only thing I can think of is the LNB LO setting, or if it is a uni LNB, the UEC may not like it.

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    Hi big mick,

    i bought a brand new one same as the one before??, Like I said its driving me crazy.

    same thing on the Arion 3330

    Thanks anyway

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    If you go into the signal strength screen on the UEC it will show something like this assuming it's searching on 12407. And as Mick said, check your lnb setting.



    You will have to peak the lnb skew to get maximum quality ie move to the fine tune screen.

    If you cannot move to the fine tune screen, then your not getting quality.

    But it sounds like you've another box there. So play with the skew.

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    Hi Farmsky,

    with reference to step 5 on the signal detection, the satelite is listed as unknown. Does it allways tell you the satellite ? even when using a gamma? And if I am pointing at the wrong bird how come I see the channel guide wth all the stations?

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    Just my opinion, I could be wrong though.
    I think your dish is pointed to the wrong sat. If you scan and nothing comes up that leads me to beleive your pointed at the wrong one.
    Also if you are on the wrong sat you will get signal but no quality.

    Just my thought.

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    Hi Min ,

    I suspect you and Farmsky are right, the funny thing is this has the highest signal strength of any other sat, and its at the right elevation. I always thought C1 had the highest strength?

    Thanks for your input .

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    yes. C1 is very powerful, but, if the level is high, and the quality is zip, then something is wrong. i still reckon LNB settings are the key, but, as usual, i am probably wrong.

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    try some frequency of bird next door

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    Id try some diffrent things.
    Test lnb settings;single 11300, then single 10700, then uni 9750/10600, or lo 9750 hi 10600.
    If this fails chances are your on the wrong sat.
    try 12487h, sr 12600, if you get sbs yourve got optus d1
    try 12734v, sr 22500, if you get ert or russia today yourve got optus d2.

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    Hi guys,

    Thank you for your comments, I got a red card from my wife so I had to pull the pin. Will try these tonight when the coast is clear.

    Once again much appreciated all.

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    Whether there is a card in the slot or not makes no diference to tuning in the sat. YOU DO NOT need a card in the slot to tune a UEC receiver. You cant be on C1 or it would come up either Foxtel Satellite or Optus Aurora depending on the TP, card or no card. If i were you I would try aiming the dish again, u are obviously not on C1. Try to use a TP that is not also on D2 so you dont get that bird by mistake as they are very close to each other.

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    Yes. D2 is probably the hottest bird now.

    You don't require 'a card in the slot' while tuning any receiver.

    You need a bit of 'quality' (ie roughly aligned and lnb skew correct) for the 'UEC sat recognition' to work. I know it works on IS8 and C1 and D2. C1 and D2 both use identical TPs ie 12407 V 3000 2/3, so if this is set as the search channel in the UEC, it will immediately identify which bird you are on. DI uses 12407 H.

    Can you tell us what the TP settings are in the UEC?

    If the dish was on Pas8 (selectv) rotate the lnb about 10minutes clockwise looking into the dish as a starting point for C1.

    If you have a more 'user friendly' box than the crappy old UEC, try the various settings that Global88 suggests to determine which bird you have got.

    But don't forget to tweak the skew.

    Below's a useful 'how to setup a UEC' from .

    Uec Aurora DSD-910 : First Time Installation (Preference to Aurora and PayTV and channels):
    1- Press the Menu button on the remote control unit and using the arrow down key scroll down to Advanced Options and press OK.
    2- You should see, Change Dish Installation highlighted in yellow, press OK.
    3- Press 9949 and LNB Configuration appears highlighted in yellow, using the down arrow scroll down to Signal setup, press OK.
    4- Signal setup 1 (home) should appear highlighted in yellow. Press OK.

    CHANGE the settings to MATCH those listed below -
    *To Scroll UP and DOWN use up or down arrow buttons on the remote control unit.
    *To Change a settings use LEFT or RIGHT arrow buttons on the remote control unit.
    (TIP-Pressing the LEFT arrow button deletes numbers as listed in the frequency row)

    Signal Source : Enabled
    LNB selection : 1
    Frequency : 12407
    Symbol Rate : 30000
    Polarisation : Vertical
    FEC : 2/3
    Press OK, when all details have been matched.

    5- Scroll down to Signal Setup 2, press OK.

    CHANGE the settings to MATCH those listed below -
    *To Scroll UP and DOWN use up or down arrow buttons on the remote control unit.
    *To Change a settings use LEFT or RIGHT arrow buttons on the remote control unit.
    Signal Source : Enabled
    LNB selection : 1
    Frequency : 12558
    Symbol Rate : 27800
    Polarisation : Horizontal
    FEC : 3/4
    Press OK, when all details have been matched.

    6- Press Exit, press exit and exit again.You should now be in Main Menu. Scroll up to Channel Arrangement Options. Press OK, scroll down to Search Servicenames, press OK and Ok again to confirm.

    **In case of corrupted memory disconnect LNB cable and complete a factory reset LISTED BELOW FIRST! Then after the unit has reset connect the LNB cable and let it go into NIT Search and start the procedure From step No –1 listed above. If the unit fails to do a search by Servicenames then disconnect the power lead Wait 10 seconds and re- apply power to the unit. When it is doing a NIT search press exit to cancel the search. Press OK to confirm and press the menu key , scroll down to channel arrangement options, press OK, scroll Down to Search Servicenames, press OK and press OK again to confirm.

    Uec Aurora DSD-910 : Resetting To factory defaults (Only Required if having difficulties)
    1- Press the Menu button on the remote control unit and using the arrow down key scroll down to Advanced Options and press OK.
    2- The Change Dish Installation appears highlighted in yellow, press OK.
    3- Press 9949 and LNB Configuration should appear highlighted in yellow, scroll down to Reset to Factory defaults and press OK.
    4- Press Ok to confirm and wait approx. 1 minute for the decoder to reset and reboot.
    5- If your Dish installation is aligned and functioning properly, press 1 on the remote and the Aurora Tuning channel colour bars should now ppear.

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    What I have found handy if your aligned on a sat already with good signal is to adjust dish up or down first till you just loose signal depending which direction your going L or R.
    Then rotate L or R to the next sat.
    Good for 1 sat at a time to get you in the ball park.

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    Hi Guys,

    Am busting to get home to give it another go, I am now agree I must be on the wrong sat, If I am on D2 I should go left a bit more? ( thats if I am behind the dish) are they at the same elevation ??

    Thanks guys again.

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    From behind the dish C1 is to the right of D2

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    Okay Guys, I am offically PISSED OFF. I have moved the dish over and relevated and all I can get is 50% but still no quality.

    I have scanned 12358 + 12588 on 27800 Hor Fec 3/4 My lnb settings are
    LNB power ON
    LNB mode SINGLE FREQUENCY
    Freq 10700 and 11300
    Tone Burst Off

    Farmsky I see your notes about scanning using the instructions above but I can't get the satellite name to come up. I have changed STB again and its the same thing.

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    also turn your lnb from 6 o clock to about 4 oclock if your facing dish from behind

    Chief

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    Did that too chief, I think I'm about to rip the F$%King thing off the roof and use it as a frisbee.

    Got a mate coming over with some equipment will see how that goes AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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    This is the Clarke belt from Sydney standing behind the dish looking true north. Az and el figures are on the chart.

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