Lol. Going to get you a big wooden spoon for Christmas Steve.
LOL - nice one balon.Originally Posted by balun
You were a bit slow there Dan. I think he is likening the banter between you two, to polling methods used by GPRS solutions. If it doesn't go direct, then it might not get through.....
....or it might get through when really it shouldn't.
Last edited by IPAlarms; 09-12-09 at 03:15 PM.
Lol. Going to get you a big wooden spoon for Christmas Steve.
Who me ?
It's funny how the whole subject of using GPRS networks for alarm monitoring has evolved over the past couple of years. Everyone got very excited and assumed that the networks were robust, however, I think it is looking increasingly true that they are simply not reliable enough to sustain a 90 second supervision interval with a single SIM.
Apart from the complaints I have heard from CMS's, I have to ask myself why some manufacturers are moving towards dual SIM's ?
I also have to question that logic when really what I think they should be doing is moving towards a fixed wire path.
Whilst I am in the mood for sharing secrets from my crystal ball, I think the widespread adoption of 3G in Australia will have a big effect on security monitoring decisions made in the not too distant future. I'm sorry, but GPRS is old hat fellas.
A very wise Nigel from ESQ once explained to me how the Americans are 4 years ahead of the Aussies and Brits, and whatever is happening there now will almost certainly happen everywhere else down the track. Some Aussies I know that are involved in the US market know full well that there is a lot of truth in that statement and they are already reaping the rewards.
Combined DSL/3G modem/routers will soon become the norm and this was confirmed to me just last week from one of my contacts at Cisco. When consumers already have a fully redundant fixed wire and wireless network connection available from a single device within their home or business, why would they want to pay top dollar for extra hardware and technology from the year 2000 ?
I'm not saying that this will happen tomorrow, just that it will happen soon and the industry should be careful not be blinkered.
I cant bring myself to type anything in depth.. same roller coaster
Well, unless my account got hacked, somebody at Austech obviously didn't like my post and took it upon themselves to change my location from Thailand to
Here's me thinking this was a discussion forum where people from the security industry could post freely about the past, present and future direction of technologies that affect us. Nowhere in my post did I mention any names or post anything offensive.
If you don't agree with my vision of the future, then let's hear your prediction. If this post dissapears and is followed by a ban, then I'll assume you prefer alternative methods of dealing with my desire to express my opinion freely.
Not good.
Well, on second thoughts - maybe my post was a little off topic and I apologise for that
Getting back on topic:
The discussion of security industry GPRS solutions is, and always will be controversial on this forum. The administrators have to decide whether or not we are allowed to discuss the subject - obviously within the forum rules.
In relation to this particular thread, a rumour was started about SCSI and NoBrainer offered a response. If any members do not agree with the response, then let's hear constructive reasons as to why not.
Otherwise, let's just put it down to it being just another rumour and move on with our lives. I'm off to update my spamalarm web site
I doubt it has anything to do with your posts. It would have to do with your free advert in your profile.Well, unless my account got hacked, somebody at Austech obviously didn't like my post and took it upon themselves to change my location from Thailand to
Well you all seem to do a good job of it from what I can see.Here's me thinking this was a discussion forum where people from the security industry could post freely about the past, present and future direction of technologies that affect us.
Yes , I must say I havent seen anything in your posts. Other than the deleted one on page 1 were a couple of people attempted to throw shit at each other for no good reason.Nowhere in my post did I mention any names or post anything offensive.
No idea what this has to do with anything.If you don't agree with my vision of the future, then let's hear your prediction.
I am more than happy to ban you if you are requesting me to. Otherwise I would suggest you get off your soapbox and stop advertising your website in your profile. If you want to do it , stick your hand in your pocket and become a Premium Member. Nothing in life is free , you want a free business plug , you pay for it. I dont see anyone else here using their profile as a marketing mechanism.If this post dissapears and is followed by a ban, then I'll assume you prefer alternative methods of dealing with my desire to express my opinion freely.
Some posts were deleted on page 1 in which a couple of members attempted to troll each other in to a fight. You would also of course notice that I advised that it was not to continue. If you dont like that , adjust your style of posting and dont dangle bait for the sharks. Note that any posts related to or quoting a removed thread will also be removed.
BTW , lets not talk shit here. Your profile didnt state Thailand at all as you falsely claim. It stated the URL to your company website.
Probably guilty as charged.
Is your personal message system broken ?
What if next time you decide to put childporn.com into my profile when I post a link when I shouldn't - where do I and other members stand then ?
Why claim otherwise then ? To try and make me look bad or a liar ?
The site PM system works fine. My personal account allows only selected people to send me messages. That way I dont have to listen to members complain to me when they get caught doing something wrong.Is your personal message system broken ?
Dont spam childporn.com and it shouldnt be a problem for you should it ?What if next time you decide to put childporn.com into my profile when I post a link when I shouldn't - where do I and other members stand then ?
Easy trigger. I am in my forties and my memory isn't what it used to be. I don't remember changing my location from Thailand to a link, but I am man enough to admit that I may have done.
You misunderstood me. I was wondering why you didn't PM me to request I remove the link in my profile.
Well, as long as we know where we stand then.
I would suspect you know as well as anyone here that self promotion is not accepted. I am also in my forties and dont really accept premature senility or alzheimers as an acceptable excuse.
We dont do requests. We just expect people that know better not to do it in the first place.You misunderstood me. I was wondering why you didn't PM me to request I remove the link in my profile.
Yes ,its pretty simple. Dont use your profile for a business advertisement.Well, as long as we know where we stand then.
OK then. It's officially weekend and Sanity's strange behaviour has put me in the mood to kick this thread up a gear.....
This thread started with a rumour, and since I was convinced by NoBrainers explanation, I stated that was sufficient for me. I was contacted by 'others' and told that my verdict was in fact wrong. I am always open to being educated and listened to what they had to say.
The crux of the information was in relation to how SCSI tamper with their polling system - as per the topic of this thread. To be honest, my opinion on the workings of the Australian security industry is so low that I went past being surprised, or caring about things like this a long time ago. So on that subject - I have nothing to say and will leave you boys to get on with your pissing contest.
BUT....
..something was said that I am interested in. In Sanity's words - let's not talk shit here. I have a very simple question for you Sanity (using forum names and not real names):
Do you own the forum and are you NoBrainers son ?
steve,
I know some blokes that might be able to help with rude pricks accessing your stuff. Its a secure network connection that prevents outside access,
PM me for more details or google SCSI
Like I said, I am done with the whole "my network is better than your network" argument. It's almost as pathetic as the Australian security industry itself.
I love Australia and think of it as my home, but the way the corporate thugs from Telstra and Optus stand over the Australian Security Standards, the way that manufacturers of GPRS solutions threaten and intimidate anyone who dares to come up with anything that remotely resembles a competing product, the way you shaft your customers with rebates with a total disregard for their real needs and the way you poach and steal each others accounts is in my view, very, very sad
What goes around comes around.
I'm glad you raised the topic of Google. A search for SCSI today returns a completely different, more positive set of results than it did before the Austech "crash". Was that simply a stroke of luck for SCSI, or was it a shrewd business decision to purchase the forum and have the unwanted posts become a casualty of a managed database "crash" ?PM me for more details or google SCSI
If it was a business decision, then as someone who is very well versed in SEO, I fully understand and respect that decision. This is a simple case of Reputation Management where a company seeks to control negative articles or web pages relating to their products or business practices.
What I do not approve of, is the continued operation of the security alarm section of the forum without either a firm denial of any link between SCSI and Austech or an honest admission that there is indeed a link.
Either people have been lying to my face about a SCSI relative owning the forum, or NoBrainer has been pulling the wool over my eyes.
I thought the "Wanna-be IP Alarms" idiot from Hervey Bay who pretends to be my company from his ipalarms .com .au web site was as sad as it gets, but I have a feeling that the industry is about to hit new lows
Agree with you on this one. Is that thunder and lightning I see outside.
I guess you will be jumping in a leaky boat soon and arriving at Christmas Island as a refugee and have my tax dollars support you whilst they process your application claiming hardship because you have to compete against other manufacturers in this marketplace.
Do you have any proof of these claims or are they just the usual rumours that circulate.
As you have been told before, not everyone is involved with rebates.
Please explain what the customers “real needs” are, as I thought I would be in a better position than you to understand & service my customers needs.
Isn’t that what you are doing now with your non approved device and hype that you are creating against anyone that doesn’t agree with you.and the way you poach and steal each others accounts is in my view, very, very sad
Crickey, I find my self agreeing on a second point with you in the same day.
Why don’t you ask nobrainer to comment on this claim. He wouldn’t lie to us would he.
Please explain for all of us mushrooms here.I thought the "Wanna-be IP Alarms" idiot from Hervey Bay who pretends to be my company from his ipalarms .com .au web site was as sad as it gets, but I have a feeling that the industry is about to hit new lows
Boy im totally confused !!
How has this turned into some conspiracy of SCSI owning Austech !!
From memory the Austech crash happened around the time SCSI was involved in Federal Court action against a competitor. In fact a lot of comments made in the forum was used in building a case..i.e statements made, timeframes, persons of interest. Over 350k was spent in legals.
Im not going to go into who was involved as it is now old hat, but this mob is now heavilly involved in the background fanning the flames for the company spreading the rumours.
I believed that the forum crashed as there was a very real fear of litigation...but I could be wrong.
I had better dispell the latest rumour...So here is the firm Public denial...SCSI has no association with Austech whatsoever and no Steve, No Brainer's love child does not run it !! lol hilarious
Hey one thing though..since the crash the Austech mods have learnt to understand what a BS industry the Australian Security industry is for sheer crap and have chosen to keep a good eye on threads...well done I say !! as we do live in a litigous world and SCSI will fiercely defend its position to anyone wanting to spread lies for no other reason than jealousy.
I have instructed our legals to expedite the demise of the source of the rumours.
Last edited by No Brainer; 12-12-09 at 01:21 PM.
my lovechild owns chubb security and was the head software engineer responsible for windows vista.
I am very ashamed of him to say the least.
I have often wondered why people on here give Ipalarms such a hard time and call him names. Now I have seen why.
No one on Austech (including me) knows anything about the security industry or cares about it in any way or form. Austech had this security forum here long before you guys even turned up here. The same applies to the Satellite forums , they were here long before 200-300 satellite enthusiasts turned up one day.
It seems Mr Ipalarms just cant handle the fact that he got caught spamming his business and had a post removed for inciting trouble. I can assure you all that if he wants to post anymore crap he will find himself out of here. If he wants to post on topic related discussion without trolling he wont have a problem but seemingly he is struggling with this. But I will send him an infraction to make him aware.
Back to the original topic please.
Edit : As Ipalarms has ignored me , he has been removed from the conversation.
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Hey Steve I dont know how clear that I can make this..but sadly people have been lying to your face.
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