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    Default Ness D8X / D16X Serial Comms

    Hi all,

    Does anyone have the Serial protocol for the onboard serial comms on a Ness D8X/D16X?

    I am a software developer and looking to interface with one of these boards. I already have a cable and getting data from it. I just need to know how to interpret it!

    Regards,
    Ady



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    Quote Originally Posted by ady View Post
    Hi all,

    Does anyone have the Serial protocol for the onboard serial comms on a Ness D8X/D16X?

    I am a software developer and looking to interface with one of these boards. I already have a cable and getting data from it. I just need to know how to interpret it!

    Regards,
    Ady
    I would sugest you contact Ness and explain what you need and what you want to do with it. If they feel what you are doing might be useful to them they might give you what you need after signing a NDA but i wouldn't hold your breath waiting for a positive outcome.

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    Default Ness Comms

    There is a software program you can use to program the panel called NessComms. The latest version is 5.3.0.8 or something like that. Not sure what format the raw data is in though. You can either dial in through the modem or direct connect with the serial interface kit. What baud, parity etc. are you useing?

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    What are you trying to achieve, ady?

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    It looks as though he wants to write a program to talk to the ness panel.
    he says he is getting data from the panel, (handshake request?) but can't interperet it.
    I don't think Ness would give out that sort of info. Ady, you may have to try to reverse engineer the firmware.

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    Hi all, thanks for the replies.

    I believe from the installation manual, this is not necessarily unavailable, Ness claim it was omitted from the manual for space reason and is available upon request. I may have to go down that path.

    The data I am getting is basically hex data about zones going insecure/secure, panel being armed/disarmed etc. The panel just spews that out as it happens. Whilst I am decoding some of it, I havn't quite figured it all out!

    Some example output:
    8603610102000912211719198e
    868361000200091221171940e8
    86036101020009122117194562
    8683610002000912211720041d
    8603610102000912211720138d

    These messages are all zone 2 going secure/insecure.

    I am aware of Nesscomms, and am yet to get my hands on a copy. As I am not a Ness Dealer, I am trying other avenues first! (Anyone wish to offer a copy - I believe it is free!)

    What am I upto....Mostly it is for my own good but who knwos where it will lead...I am wanting to be able to see what is happening to the system remotely...basically see the above information securely over the internet..... This could become a tool useful to those in the industry....


    Regards,
    Adrian.

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    Ady, Have sent you a PM

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    Default I want to do the same thing

    Firstly, sorry for reviving such an old thread however I would like to do the exact same thing as Ady did.

    Ady, did you ever write that software? Did you ever get the serial commands from Ness?

    Would be very interested to hear how it all went or anyone else's experiences getting serial (or even ip) of an alarm system to provide a realtime status online.

    Thanks,
    Tim

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    Hills ComNav for the Reliance panels does just what you're after.

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    Reverse engineering a proprietary protocol may lead down some very troublesome paths. Best advice so far was delivered to you by BSS904. NDA's will definitely be in order.

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    Hi Guys,

    I have tried many different avenues to source the Nesscomm software, no one including Ness want to help. I am basically looking at programming an Arduino to communicate with my D16X, which will then communicate to my server and display realtime activity of my system over the web. I have worked out the majority of the protocol but there are some things I need to use the Nesscomm for.

    If any one could point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.

    Thanks

    Matt

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    Attached is the NESS document you need.
    Note that this is a serial ASCII format and is used when the D8 is in normal operation.
    NESSCOMMS operation is separate to this (it is not ASCII).

    Interested in how you get on with the Arduino.

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    Here is the link.

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    This PC s/w allows testing the D8x ASCII & helps understanding it.


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    Cheers for that. Ill post details once I have had the time to get it going. Going to start with a PC app, once I have everything sorted then Ill move to the Arduino.

    Matt

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    Hey guys

    COuld somebody please post another link to NessComms software as I have a D16X system I'm setting up at the moment at home.

    All the above links r dead as megaupload has been shut down.

    Cheers James9813

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    Hi Guys,
    i would also really appreciate a copy of the two documents that were posted explaining the serial protocol out of these panels.
    Thanks

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    Hi guys,
    as with bryonvp, I would also love a copy of these documents. I've been trying to work out the codes for a while but I'm still confused.
    Thanks richendes

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    Howdy folks,

    Also desperate to obtain the serial protocol documentation and copy of the software! Any links or suggestions much appreciated!!

    RIP megaupload...

    Thanks!!

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    Stuff now available freely on Ness' website. I'm going to release my monitoring software for Windows soon.

    It has a simple user interface but generates a web page. Fully configurable. Looking at providing remote arming and maybe disarming etc

    Matt

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