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    Default Anti-Piracy Windows 7 Update Phones Home Quarterly

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    Lauren Weinstein sends in news of a major and disturbing Microsoft anti-piracy initiative called Windows Activation Technologies, or WAT. Here is Microsoft's blog post giving their perspective on what WAT is for. From Lauren's blog: "The release of Windows 7 'Update for Microsoft Windows (KB71033)' will change the current activation and anti-piracy behavior of Windows 7 by triggering automatic 'phone home' operations over the Internet to Microsoft servers, typically for now at intervals of around 90 days. ... These automatic queries will repeatedly — apparently for as long as Windows is installed — validate your Windows 7 system against Microsoft's latest database of pirated system signatures (currently including more than 70 activation exploits known to Microsoft). If your system matches — again even if up to that time (which could be months or even years since you obtained the system) it had been declared to be genuine — then your system will be 'downgraded' to 'non-genuine' status until you take steps to obtain what Microsoft considers to be an authentic, validated, Windows 7 license. ... KB971033... is scheduled to deploy to the manual downloading 'Genuine Microsoft Software' site on February 16, and start pushing out automatically through the Windows Update environment on February 23. ... [F]or Microsoft to assert that they have the right to treat ordinary PC-using consumers in this manner — declaring their systems to be non-genuine and down
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    Here we go again....I guess it's time to turn off auto updates.

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    wow 3 posts and you learnt to copy & paste
    im amazed
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    must be bitter about the msdn key scandel...

    oh well, im pretty sure most people now have a legitkey

    phone home all you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoopsOz View Post
    Here we go again....I guess it's time to turn off auto updates.
    That goes without saying

    Ever since MS did a automatic update of my video driver some 5 years ago and crashed my computer, i have never trusted them bloody things
    Ohh and because i have always had pirated OS LOL
    When you do things right, people won't be sure that you have done anything at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philquad View Post
    wow 3 posts and you learnt to copy & paste
    im amazed
    This may not affect you or Anyone for that matter its just something for those who have not heard about this yet,
    So your comment is clearly Unessary
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    Might be not 100% relevant - Some high schools which participate in MSDN program are issueing MS product including win 7 keys for free to high school students.
    Just waiting for my daughter's application to go through their system to see which version she gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by best4less View Post
    Ohh and because i have always had pirated OS LOL

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    ok your right
    good information givin
    i can see a lot of copies not passing the test
    hence the want of genuine keys
    but understand that some of us old time forum lovers, see 1-5 time posters come and go with their wealth of knowledge and are never to be seen again
    with me?


    so cool, post good stuff
    but take 5 seconds to explain what your saying, or you'll end up just another 1 hit wonder

    ps. post the site

    its a good read
    but really, i bought my win 7 off a guy on ebay
    he said it was legit key
    ok im on 7 day suspension from ebay for selling illegit keys, but i thought they were legit?
    surely ebay knew that he was not selling the real thing?
    you gotta laugh guys,serious
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philquad View Post
    ok your right
    good information givin
    i can see a lot of copies not passing the test
    hence the want of genuine keys
    but understand that some of us old time forum lovers, see 1-5 time posters come and go with their wealth of knowledge and are never to be seen again
    with me?


    so cool, post good stuff
    but take 5 seconds to explain what your saying, or you'll end up just another 1 hit wonder

    ps. post the site

    its a good read
    but really, i bought my win 7 off a guy on ebay
    he said it was legit key
    ok im on 7 day suspension from ebay for selling illegit keys, but i thought they were legit?
    surely ebay knew that he was not selling the real thing?
    you gotta laugh guys,serious
    Yep no probs i fully understand i have been apart of this forum for years but just as an outside reader i only registerd to get a link once otherwise i would be still just reading away there is always a good read and plenty of info but now i'm here i will post away
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    good on ya
    thats what makes it
    all contributions are good, even if you dont know what your talking about
    ive fumbled my way through it for years lol

    ps. if the guy from ebay i tried to blackmail for cheap keys is here, im sorry
    i was pissed, and i thought if you had heaps you could spare a few
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    i just did a bit of reading on this
    "apparently" if you have win 7 allready activated
    and you turn of the auto updates, i doubt you will be found
    i may be wrong, but it prelongs spending $
    face it, for smart people, they're really dumb
    sell it for $50 not $400 and ppl wont care
    bit like the movie screen really
    greed prevails
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    No need to turn automatic updates off. This time the update is voluntary and actions taken against an user who chooses not to install it. Even if you install it the change is minimal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philquad View Post
    , im sorry
    i was pissed
    Truly i am shocked to find out that you are a drinker mate
    When you do things right, people won't be sure that you have done anything at all

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    That was my thought exactly.... Even for $100, most of the people wouldn't bother with the fakes.... or MSDN... or TechNet.... Only the hard core pirates would still do it.... Money would be saved in NOT developing all the fancy anti-piracy measures...

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    ..... for smart people, they're really dumb
    sell it for $50 not $400 and ppl wont care
    bit like the movie screen really
    greed prevails

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    i guess it kind of had to happen (inevitably) with all the dodgeyness with key sales.

    Skeptics might even think this was a ploy to get people into win 7 and then encourage users to purchase a legit key (dont care if its a voluntary update) then again they did not hand it out on the side of a street! (win7)

    As many people that are not into computers will accept it without knowing what it will do. Personally I have installed it on a few family members computers, and set it up to automatically accept updates (as these people have little to no idea about computers)

    not arguing the rights and wrongs of pirating here.
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    I havent heard of a single MSDN key being blacklisted yet. My computer has all current Windows 7 updates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanity View Post
    I havent heard of a single MSDN key being blacklisted yet. My computer has all current Windows 7 updates.
    same here Sanity,

    but reading this has me thinking

    "The company plans to make the update available for download from its website starting Feb. 16. Later in the month, the update will be available through the Windows Update system as an "important" update (as opposed to the higher ranking of "critical"), which means that people who have their Windows 7 machines set to receive those updates will receive them automatically as if they were getting a security patch. The update will also be uninstallable if a user finds out later and wants to remove it."

    edit:I guess time will tell...

    I am sure someone will create something that will prevent the update
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanity View Post
    I havent heard of a single MSDN key being blacklisted yet. My computer has all current Windows 7 updates.

    They must know what keys were generated by what accounts so time will tell i guess. Maybe a good time to do a ghost .
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