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    Default How do they know it's me?

    I've been on Activ8me internet for about 5 mths and recently my neighbour moved and gave me his Ipstar system.

    I've connected the modem he gave me to see if it works, and it does.

    So my question is, How do Activ8me or the Ipstar system know that it's me who's using the service?

    I originally thought that whatever it is that identifies me as the user to the system, is probably a serial number or similar located in the modem.

    Obviously not because either modem works equally well.

    I've even tried a different computer to see if it made any difference, it didn't.

    So the only thing left that could identify me to the system is the LNB, that's the only thing I haven't changed.

    Anyone know how they do it?

    I just noticed that even though I've used up my daily fast download allocation, the download speed has gone back to fast.
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    G'Day you flighty devil.
    Methinks his account is still open and he'll get a rude shock when bills continue to arrive.
    I would carefully check it out, before you quack your ducklings.

    Kindest Regards, " The Druid ".


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    Quote Originally Posted by beer4life View Post
    G'Day you flighty devil.
    Methinks his account is still open and he'll get a rude shock when bills continue to arrive.
    I would carefully check it out, before you quack your ducklings.

    Kindest Regards, " The Druid ".

    My thoughts too Beer, but he should be in a new account period so max download speed, but when I look at the Activ8me usage meter it's showing my monthly usage.

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    BD, have you checked the Modem Home page and cross checked the details shown when you plug each Modem in?
    ABB told me they could vary the output power of the Tx side of the LNB and they could address it remotely so if thats correct, it means that they know who 'You' are otherwise if they sent out any updates or data, everyone would receive it and that may not be a good idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDuck View Post
    My thoughts too Beer, but he should be in a new account period so max download speed, but when I look at the Activ8me usage meter it's showing my monthly usage.
    G'Dat Cobber,
    unless you delete your cookies, the ISP can tell which user is logging in.
    I assume it is similar to logging in to a known site, that can auto log you in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gordon_s1942 View Post
    BD, have you checked the Modem Home page and cross checked the details shown when you plug each Modem in?
    Arr me 'artie, and where be this Modem 'ome page located?
    Quote Originally Posted by gordon_s1942 View Post
    ABB told me they could vary the output power of the Tx side of the LNB and they could address it remotely so if thats correct, it means that they know who 'You' are otherwise if they sent out any updates or data, everyone would receive it and that may not be a good idea.
    This paragraph I don't get at all, I don't see how varying the O/P power of the LNB TX would do much other than reduce the power to be received by the satellite. Maybe I'm missing something.

    If I understand what ABB said, before they could reduce the power from the LNB they would have to have an address for the LNB, otherwise they would be shutting down all LNBs!

    Strange...

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    Double Post...
    Last edited by BlackDuck; 21-03-10 at 09:11 PM. Reason: echo

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    think they use the mac address of the modem
    the ipstar system will still be in the other account
    if you log on to it you will see that the settings are different to yours

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickc View Post
    think they use the mac address of the modem
    the ipstar system will still be in the other account
    if you log on to it you will see that the settings are different to yours
    This is all new to me so I don't know what the mac address is, but I agree there has to be someway to identify each user/node.

    We didn't get much info from the installer, only "If it stops working turn it off for 3 minutes."

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    Just switched back to the original Activ8me modem and checked my usage.

    It shows exactly the same usage, so Ipstar is accepting contact from either modem as being my legit Activ8me account.

    So I don't see how there could be an identifier address in the modem...

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    With Optus, for example, they use an Circuit ID which identifies the user.
    It's set by the installer before commissioning. That particular page in the modem is password protected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vk6xlr View Post
    With Optus, for example, they use an Circuit ID which identifies the user.
    It's set by the installer before commissioning. That particular page in the modem is password protected.
    Each modem has a different serial number and I thought this could be inbuilt into the software as an address/identifier.

    Yet Ipstar doesn't seem to see either modem as being from different ISPs.

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    check your usage after a few hours or next day
    i can get a extra gig or 2 on the last night of billing cycle as they update every few hours only

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDuck View Post
    Each modem has a different serial number and I thought this could be inbuilt into the software as an address/identifier.

    Yet Ipstar doesn't seem to see either modem as being from different ISPs.
    You'll probably find that Activ8me and IPstar use the same satellite. Also IPstar supplies the satellite service to Activ8me.

    Parameters that define you are: VSAT ID, Workgroup address, Software Group address, Streamer PID, Outbound PID, frequency, data rate, modulation and coding rate.
    These are all set in the Installer Menu. The modem serial number is irrelevant.

    I'd say, his account is still active, that's why the system works.

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    In the "Login Status Messages" it shows that your satellite transceiver uses Toll details to login.


    In the Satellite tab you see that your transceiver has a Toll ID.


    Check to see whether your two receivers have different Toll IDs.

    You can check your usage using any computer connected to the web... it is not related to which transceiver is used.

    I agree with the Druid... the other account (whose usage you have not checked) is still open.

    cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJM View Post
    In the "Login Status Messages" it shows that your satellite transceiver uses Toll details to login.

    In the Satellite tab you see that your transceiver has a Toll ID.

    Check to see whether your two receivers have different Toll IDs.

    You can check your usage using any computer connected to the web... it is not related to which transceiver is used.

    I agree with the Druid... the other account (whose usage you have not checked) is still open.

    cheers
    What you say makes good sense AJM, but on checking I found that the Toll ID for both modems is the same.

    The only differences are TX Gain, MaxGain, RXFrequency(RF) and RXFrequency(L-Band) which indicates to me that the modems address different transponders.

    When my ex neighbour gives me his new phone number I'll find out if he has discontinued his service, and if not to send me the bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDuck View Post
    This is all new to me so I don't know what the mac address is, but I agree there has to be someway to identify each user/node.
    A Mac address is a unique set of numbers in a specific format that a number of communication items have. Chances are that if you look on the bottom of your modem you will see a series of numbers like xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx ( cant remember the exact amount and have have anything hear to look at ).

    You can use Mac Filtering as a process of access on your own network with most modems by typing the mac address numbers of items that you allow access to. For example , on my network I have 3 PC's , an XBox 360 and a security camera. All have Mac addresses and are on my allowed list. Any item that tries to connect that doesnt have an allowed Mac address cannot connect.

    This may or may not have anything to do with your issue.

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    @ mickc and Sanity, Each modem has a stick on label with a series of 9 numbers, and a bar code, These are different for each modem and may be the MAC address.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beer4life View Post
    G'Day you flighty devil.
    Methinks his account is still open and he'll get a rude shock when bills continue to arrive.
    I would carefully check it out, before you quack your ducklings.

    Kindest Regards, " The Druid ".

    Just to finish this thread.

    My ex neighbour Emailed me and told me that they had failed to close his account, This has now been done and the modem worketh not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDuck View Post
    My ex neighbour Emailed me and told me that they had failed to close his account, This has now been done and the modem worketh not.
    Quote Originally Posted by vk6xlr View Post
    I'd say, his account is still active, that's why the system works.
    Just what I said

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