12567v C1 new vast channels for south east

**allstarnz** · 19-05-10, 08:28 AM

ssssshhhhhh

wouldn't surprise me if it's gone within 3 weeks

**pc9** · 19-05-10, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by bambbbam

SBS Hd does sure look pretty.

Unfortunately when I found it, was some show about carving up whale blubber!

Yep MPEG 4 no doubt - makes the local digital terrestrial version of SBS HD here in Cairns look pretty sick. SD will obviously be in MPEG 2, however if the bandwidth/bitrate is there then they should come up okay too.

Lets keep our fingers crossed.

**satdancer** · 19-05-10, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by pc9

Yep MPEG 4 no doubt - makes the local digital terrestrial version of SBS HD here in Cairns look pretty sick. SD will obviously be in MPEG 2, however if the bandwidth/bitrate is there then they should come up okay too.

Lets keep our fingers crossed.

Given the bitrate of ~2.2 Mbps for the SD SBS channels it's an almost certain bet that they are H.264 as well as the HD channel. There is no way they'll fit 15 channels including so many HD channels onto a DVB-S2 multiplex unless they are all H.264. ABC are the only odd one out because they probably couldn't afford the H.264 encoders so they got banished to their own transponder.

**mtv** · 19-05-10, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by gordon_s1942

MTV advised earlier that it appears the Mildura/Sunraysia area wont need access to VAST as they can cover it Terrestially so its will be interesting to see who is next,July 1st providing the STB's are available and how they decide what areas in each 'Switchover' zone can access VAST.

In addition to that, at the launch of construction at the site of the Craigmore terrestrial translator (Adelaide SA) last week, Sen. Conroy announced the VAST satellite service would be operating in 3 months time.

The last I had heard was it would be ready for the first SA analogue switch off at the end of the year.

It's just another case of believe it when we see it.

I have several people in the Blue Mountains (NSW) waiting for a decision on this service, as they have NO TV reception at all, due to topography.

Yes, they are entitled to have Aurora now, but why spend money on installing Aurora, only to have to spend more to replace the decoder for VAST.

At this point in time, VAST will only be made available to those households in areas where their current terrestrial analogue service is about to be switched off, so even though VAST may actually be on air and some areas would have decoders available for it, blackspot areas in the Blue Mountains would have to wait until late 2013 (Sydney analogue shutoff) before they would be able to obtain a VAST decoder... even though they have no TV (analogue or digital) now.

This is a ridiculous restriction and I certainly hope that decision is changed.

**LeroyPatrol** · 19-05-10, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by davmel

Yeah, sort of, several USB tuners.

Interested to know more about your setup. Maybe start a new thread on blindscanning techniques?

Cheers,
Leroy

**mtv** · 19-05-10, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by davmel

Given the bitrate of ~2.2 Mbps for the SD SBS channels it's an almost certain bet that they are H.264 as well as the HD channel. There is no way they'll fit 15 channels including so many HD channels onto a DVB-S2 multiplex unless they are all H.264. ABC are the only odd one out because they probably couldn't afford the H.264 encoders so they got banished to their own transponder.

Unless the decision was changed and I was not made aware of it.... as far as I know, all VAST channels, both SD and HD, will be MPEG4.

**satdancer** · 19-05-10, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by mtv

Unless the decision was changed and I was not made aware of it.... as far as I know, all VAST channels, both SD and HD, will be MPEG4.

The ABC will almost certainly change to H.264 at some time in the future but for now they are bit for bit identical to the terrestrial VIC ABC MPEG-2 transmissions (both SD and HD).

**gareth41** · 19-05-10, 11:46 AM

I am getting both tp's here in NZ on a 3.6m solid using vuduo, very low SNR about 30%, lock flicking on and off, getting ABC channels but heavily pixilated. foxtel help chan comming it at 59% though, and aljazerra at 49%.

**technowiz** · 19-05-10, 01:42 PM

Are these channels encrypted at the momment. ?

**satdancer** · 19-05-10, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by technowiz

Are these channels encrypted at the momment. ?

Only the ABC HD channel and the SBS SD/radio channels are encrypted currently.

**cableguy49** · 19-05-10, 05:55 PM

Does anyone have the PIDS for these channels, also what LNB are you using as I have a universal LNB on a 1.2M with a motek and using the parameters already posted on an Octagon 918 its not coming up with any channels.
regards
CG49

**bambbbam** · 19-05-10, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by cableguy49

Does anyone have the PIDS for these channels, also what LNB are you using as I have a universal LNB on a 1.2M with a motek and using the parameters already posted on an Octagon 918 its not coming up with any channels.
regards
CG49

Only the ABC & SBS channels currently have visible pics. Are you getting those?

12447, 30000, V DVB-S2, 8PSK, Pilot On, Fec 3/5
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**satdancer** · 19-05-10, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by cableguy49

Does anyone have the PIDS for these channels, also what LNB are you using as I have a universal LNB on a 1.2M with a motek and using the parameters already posted on an Octagon 918 its not coming up with any channels.
regards
CG49

You shouldn't need the exact PID's as they are correctly entered into the PAT for each transponder so once you scan the transponder you should have them.
PID's for SBS HD are 3350V/3351A/3350PCR

**gareth41** · 19-05-10, 07:14 PM

getting better SNR now sun has gone down, seems to drop around 12% during day. got 42% on 12447 now, interesting docco on ABC2 right now

**Rentakill** · 19-05-10, 09:01 PM

Working fine in the Bay Of Plenty, Gareth.. No Pixelation or Breakup at all.
Loaded 20 Services on Dm 8000.
3.8M Orbitron Mesh, with MTI LNB..

Cheers:

**satdancer** · 19-05-10, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by Rentakill

Working fine in the Bay Of Plenty, Gareth.. No Pixelation or Breakup at all.
Loaded 20 Services on Dm 8000.
3.8M Orbitron Mesh, with MTI LNB..

Are you using liquid nitrogen on your LNB? ;-)

**sat_info** · 19-05-10, 09:27 PM

I am using a Universal LNB and get no signal at all on those transponders on my DM8000

Strange...

**sat_info** · 19-05-10, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by sat_info

I am using a Universal LNB and get no signal at all on those transponders on my DM8000

Strange...

I worked it out, interesting about the other settings to get it to scan

**gareth41** · 19-05-10, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by Rentakill

Working fine in the Bay Of Plenty, Gareth.. No Pixelation or Breakup at all.
Loaded 20 Services on Dm 8000.
3.8M Orbitron Mesh, with MTI LNB..

Cheers:

Yea I think the beam is a bit stronger there.

Just loaded up 12647 V 10500, showing foxtel 3D loop HD 1080, FTA getting 50% SNR

**satdancer** · 19-05-10, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by gareth41

Just loaded up 12647 V 10500, showing foxtel 3D loop HD 1080, FTA getting 50% SNR

Just a correction, the 3D Demo channel has nothing to do with Foxtel, it is the downlink feed for the terrestrial broadcast sites and is paid for by SBS and Nine.

Here is a cap from Stereoscopic Player converted into the old red/blue if you have glasses handy:

Nice depth between the football players.