16F84A lifespan

[osci]

Hi all,

For a little while now been having trouble with retaining pix, The card was the proper gold open platform type.

Particularly on the 12407v freq I would lose pix quite frequently for anywhere between 2-10 seconds, for a a while I'd been dreading the thought of re-aligning the dish & motor as thats what I thought it was, So picked up a new gold whitey over the wekend from jaycar and burnt another card and so far so good no more problems with losing pix.

[LeroyPatrol]

Try reprogramming your old goldie from scratch with the pic code again. I found this fixed issues with a couple of goldies I had.

Leroy

[osci]

Try reprogramming your old goldie from scratch with the pic code again. I found this fixed issues with a couple of goldies I had.

Leroy

Ye tried that Leroy....all were the same, even the silver was losing pix, yet with the new gold whitey from jaycar, I programmed her up and away she went not even any hint of losing pix again, I even thought it may have been the version of GFG I was using, but I haven't seen any new versions of this file lately.

[Farmsky]

Hi osci,

I've your exact experience with both gold and silver.

The silver was stuffed (couldn't re-program the eeprom), but the gold programmed ok (LMEIT had no problem with a Jaycar programmer) ... but was simply 'worn out' when presed into service.

In my experience, the humble cheap and cheerful 16f84a is every bit the equal (lifespan and everything else wise) of a 16F877 and others.

Your STB is also a factor.

[osci]

Hi osci,

I've your exact experience with both gold and silver.

The silver was stuffed (couldn't re-program the eeprom), but the gold programmed ok (LMEIT had no problem with a Jaycar programmer) ... but was simply 'worn out' when presed into service.

In my experience, the humble cheap and cheerful 16f84a is every bit the equal (lifespan and everything else wise) of a 16F877 and others.

Your STB is also a factor.

You would be correct there Farmsky, my stb is getting fairly long in the tooth, but as I was saying before I thought the dish was out of alignment due to the dry here Victoria and now with moisture starting come back into the ground more movement for the house until it settles again, but with the new gold it seems to have solved the issues,

[Glennsat]

whats the life like on an unused Goldie from years gone by if u program now?

[osci]

whats the life like on an unused Goldie from years gone by if u program now?

I don't think you'd have an issue with it as such, I would imagine it probably last at least 5 years...thats only going by my cards.

[evilbrian]

whats the life like on an unused Goldie from years gone by if u program now?

Found three in a drawer a cpl of months ago that had some old F@x details on them from about 2003. Managed to program 2 of them successfully and they're humming along nicely. As Farmsky said, they're a durable little beast.

[dishboy]

I have a 16F84A/24LC16 also, but never ending issues trying to program it. Would like to get something joyful from my card besides as an ice scraper.

I have a programmer with smart mouse/phoenix settings, 3.57,6,8,10 & 12 frequency.
I tried GGedit,LMedit, Ausgold etc. I get to half way then fail. I suspect bin/hex issues of not compatible with card.
Anyone to provide crumbs to my humble self via PM would be grateful and discrete.

[LeroyPatrol]

I have a 16F84A/24LC16 also, but never ending issues trying to program it. Would like to get something joyful from my card besides as an ice scraper.

I have a programmer with smart mouse/phoenix settings, 3.57,6,8,10 & 12 frequency.
I tried GGedit,LMedit, Ausgold etc. I get to half way then fail. I suspect bin/hex issues of not compatible with card.
Anyone to provide crumbs to my humble self via PM would be grateful and discrete.

You need to program the eprom first before you can use your phoenix with LMedit etc. Your phoenix is not capable of this.

Leroy

[dishboy]

Leroy thanks.
Can a CAS 2 plus do the eeprom bit?

[jamesv]

Hi osci,

I've your exact experience with both gold and silver.

The silver was stuffed (couldn't re-program the eeprom), but the gold programmed ok (LMEIT had no problem with a Jaycar programmer) ... but was simply 'worn out' when presed into service.

In my experience, the humble cheap and cheerful 16f84a is every bit the equal (lifespan and everything else wise) of a 16F877 and others.

Your STB is also a factor.

thks for info Farmsky and btw, good to see you back

[puca]

have had the same problem lately cards have been in use for around 8 years have replaced them all and no further problems so it looks like you get about 5-8 years from a card

[efab]

mine are doing the same although the ones that have been in the hummy are doing fine,
even have a friend who has one in an old uec660 and never had to touch it.
may not being in a fully compliant irdeto box has something to do with it

[osci]

mine are doing the same although the ones that have been in the hummy are doing fine,
even have a friend who has one in an old uec660 and never had to touch it.
may not being in a fully compliant irdeto box has something to do with it

I found they still played up in the hummy, although the hummy would quickly update the card compared to the strong which seemed to take forever, but now, its not taking the str no where near as long to update the new card.

[efab]

not sure if I should out lay the d$$ for new ones with the coming of VAST
although for us in the west we still have 3 years to go so what's $20 for a couple of cards