TLM with audible alarm makes sure the customer never disconnects itOriginally Posted by Wade
No it doesn't.TLM with audible alarm makes sure the customer never disconnects it
But it sure as hell makes sure they won't do it a second time :-)
For maximum results, try a screw through the chunky plastic finger between pins 4 and 5.
Last edited by downunderdan; 29-07-10 at 01:37 AM.
Testing by who? The tech or the client? I wouldn't say it's inaccessable in a panel... what do you reken?
Last edited by Wade; 29-07-10 at 08:55 AM. Reason: spelling
The standard Telstra line test is all equipment unplugged other than a standard phone in the first socket. If you have a suspected fault they will require you to do this. As we all know it is your alarm system that ALWAYS causes the phone line problems. If you can't isolate the alarm you will probably end up with a hefty call out bill from Telstra.
ps please don't tell me that a burglar could get to your M3 skt before the alarm is triggered. It would shatter me after seeing those beautiful photos.
Well spotted Andrew.
DTU 3
Correct. It's been a while since I referred to the exact wording but if memory serves, it was clear that the connection is supposed to be made externally. My interpretation is that the 611 is to be mounted externally as most (if any) Telstra techs wouldn't have a PK625 to access the panel.
That said, I do install the connection inside the panel on occation depending on the situation. In this case, PSTN is a backup to the GPRS so I deemed it to be non-critical but in cases when the PSTN is primary (or sole) path and panel is in an accessible area, I tend to keep them inside the panel.
I am aware of your dislike for this practice Dan.
In this case however, I deemed it to be acceptable as this is a secondary screamer and the panel is in a secure location on the second floor (plantroom) covered by an instant zone (not accessible within entry delay time Watchdog).
All cabling is in conduit from the panel to the detectors/codepads in this case so lazy was not an option.
I thought this was standard practice. Some mounting plates have the screw supplied.
Thats why you leave the key on top of the panel.
intelliGEORGE (29-07-10),redozqld (03-08-10)
Then whats the point of having a keyed lock?
I think Keystone was being sarcastic. If not then LOL
Most other panels use a screw or hex bolt or even no screw at all if you choose not to install a teck screw on the NX8 so is a keyed lock nessasery..... obviously not.
Anyway my reason for that comment was to get around the requirements of allowing access to the phone point.
I would rather have the panel key handy than install the phone socket external to the panel.
One of mine pretty happy with
Keyed locks on control panels are a particularly American trait. Locally produced or non-American panels tend to have screws.
In the USA, there's something of a holy war amongst installers as to whether they should give the owner a copy of the key or not, 'for their own protection'. This despite the key being standard and widely available.
In my opinion, it's largely academic as if the Bad Guy gets that close to your panel, it's well and truly game over, key or not.
Lemme guess. You installed that at Westpac?
Ok So you can read Dan. LOL
Sickpuppy's certainly looks the most service friendly, nothing worse than having to undo 20 cable ties just to trace a cable pair. Sure they look all swanky when you post them on the internet but is the overkill on cable ties really necessary?
Also a key on top of the panel has solved many middle of the night call outs when Joe Bloggs alarm is going off in the middle of the night and he doesn't want to pay call out fees.
Last edited by rotor138; 30-07-10 at 11:58 PM.
I've done a Westpac branch. Did you get a programming template? It's a little bit "special"
Keystone (31-07-10)
You're absolutely right. I love it when I see the neat & tidy panels. But I hate it when I have to trace the tightly bounded wires, cutting cable ties, and the worst thing is, there's no slag to move it to another zone.
Cable slack (or lack of) is one of my beefs too. I'm tired of having to explain the reason to people only to get a stupid look in return. I try to allow a few hundred mm in the wall cavity, duct or ceiling space for that reason.
Also allowing a small loop of cable at each connection for testing etc. Often a cable that gets connected and disconnected several times will have to be stripped back as the copper wears out. Feel a rant coming on......
As for the key/screw debate, panel tamper switch is there for a reason, as is detection in the panel area. If I can access the panel area, no screw or key will keep me out, and if need be I can open the panel without triggering the tamper - have cobalt saw, will penetrate
sPuDd..
It should work ...in theory
I thought putting a resistor across the terminals was the norm for repairing cable faults.
Thats what o0ne of the multinationals was doing here to stop false alarms the large school client was so impressed they had stopped the false alarms till 3yrs later when we took over and showed them all the resistored out sensors
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