vbthanks , I am editing your thread title so its more obvious what its about so we dont get more multiple posts on the same topic.
what about bank details thats going to be interesting ??
Tagg
vbthanks , I am editing your thread title so its more obvious what its about so we dont get more multiple posts on the same topic.
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Selecttv will be happy and so will i.
More chance that they will around in the long run.
What would have really got under my skin would have been if Select went under and then they stopped all sellers.
At least those of you who have lost their sellers cards can still get some pay tv for $30 a month.
Any later and i feel it may have costed alot more.
edit; If Select decides to send soap on a rope, please send them some vasoline just in case.
Yep, and all that is entered in correspondence can potentially be used in court, I remember TENS coverage interviewing ASTRA girl; that end-users themselves can find themselves in trouble.Originally Posted by tagg
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gamma card? gamma card? what gamma card?
Leroy
What's PAY TV
When you do things right, people won't be sure that you have done anything at all
more news
"A criminal ring that may have produced thousands of illegal pay television cards has been busted following raids by Australian Federal Police (AFP) officers in north Queensland, New South Wales and Victoria.
During the raids, conducted on 10 properties, AFP officers seized set-top decoders as well as $169,000 in cash, several computers, 18 boxes of illegal fireworks and hundreds of the fake pay TV encryption cards.
Two men have been arrested in Victoria, but none have been made in Queensland, where raids were conducted in Ayr, near Townsville, Bohle Plains and Garbutt.
The smart cards or "gamma" cards, which are copied by the pirates, give people access to the Foxtel and Austar pay television networks without a subscription."
The net is getting wider.
Correct me if I am wrong but won't all the gear collected in these raids be held by the relevant Police forces, and used as evidence in the eventual trials of these individuals. Therefore the likes of Foxtel and Austar will not be able to examine the material ( if allowed at all because it does not belong to them) until they are eventually released ? Hence there will be some time before they are able act on the information they receive. Unless of course the individuals involved used their subs as the original card details in which case ????
That is my understanding of the legal system and merely stating my opinion.
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Having in your possession a card of itself should not be an offence, but perhaps having a programmed 'working' one could. A grey area.
Remember, the FTA with US has seen things change somewhat in regards outcomes, and this insofar prosecution potential will go beyond the mere pay tv subject.
See the AFP Media Release, a link is on a previous page. AFP will be acting with the industry, in turn represented via its ASTRA body. 'The company -experts' will no doubt be part of that on-scene' investigation and examination, with and on behalf of police. You will note elsewhere in media a Kim Williams statement.
All of which is not really surprising I guess.
5th Wyking Panzer Division
how do you "bust a ring" ouch and has anyone actually seen a "police swoop"...FFS the standard of journalism in this country is pretty woeful
The Police probably "Busted the ring when they swooped" after they raced to the scene.
[QUOTE=diggler;36286Police say there may now be up to 50,000 fake pay TV cards in use across Australia.QUOTE]
what they meant to say was..we have no idea how many fake tv cards they made....lol...and if the police have taken all there equitment ... on one will be able to look at or use it , until the case has been heard..they dont what to have the case blown by tampered evedence...lol....so austar\fox\select wont get there hands on the code or anything for a little while
later
LOL He probably just handed himself in
When you do things right, people won't be sure that you have done anything at all
I wonder if the forensic police will play with the equipment and
they might be kind enough to post a few codes for us
Even though we don't tolerate codes being posted on this site
When you do things right, people won't be sure that you have done anything at all
What kind of evidence, cards don't work anymore.
How will this look? How to demonstrate the card actually opens up pay tv content? The only way to do it is to stick the card into a decoder and produce pics.
If these cards details were shut by Austar already the evidence won't be that hard?
Unless Austar retores those details back and those unlucky once with new expensive ice scrappers can enjoy pics until the evidence is presented before the jurge.
Geez have a look down below:
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Lets see if the old pre-crash record can be improved.
See page 206 (page 206 is the number on the page, my pdf reader says it's page 228).
That is the legislation that is relevant to this issue.
I highly doubt that the defence's lawyers would try to dispute that the equipment in question can't be used to receive encoded Austar, Would they have us beleive that all those cards are for scraping ice?
I love lawyers. They can if they want to turn everything up side down.I highly doubt that the defence's lawyers would try to dispute that the equipment in question can't be used to receive encoded Austar, Would they have us beleive that all those cards are for scraping ice?
What is broadcast decoding device? I always thought the smart card cannot decode the broadcast by itself. The decoder can; those two guys didn't make these decoders. Be with me for a second.
The smart card is a device to authorise decoder to decode the broadcast, providing the smart card has been in turn authorised to authorise the decoder.
Br-r-rr-r-r.
Now, what we have here is two guys with hundreds of plastic ice scrappers with invalid details or not authorised to authorise the decoder to decode the broadcast.
Thats it, I am going to watch my tv, legally received via FTA broadcast.
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