Originally Posted by irdeto2engineer
Eh ?
Lets wait and see what Mad Cow has to say about all of this then.
Eh ?
I thought you lived in that nexk of the woods in FNQ
lolz... tsk tsk to them for gettin caught.
When it comes to scammin for freebies....it is human nature to find a way..
Where these dudes have failed, others will succeed.
Personally. I have no qualms. I love how hacksters keep those overpaid monkeys on their toes. Vista was first cracked by a bunch of youngsters in Asia.... you cant stop that desire... ever.
astro
One of the downsides of commercial piracy though is it brings the hobby into disrepute and makes life more difficult for those of us who are more interested in the technology than in TV watching or money-making piracy schemes. Heavy handed anti-piracy advertising and press releases lead many people to falsely believe all kinds of rubbish.
- there's no such thing as free satellite television
- anyone who puts up their own dish is breaking the law
- humaxes are illegal
- dreamboxes are illegal
- smartcards are illegal
- card programmers are illegal
- pirates are responsible for Pay TV companies' high prices
- smartcards are exclusive to Pay TV companies and nobody else is allowed to study or use them
Some businesses do their homework, stock satellite related equipment and do a good trade selling to installers, enthusiasts, geeks, "power user" consumers, students, programmers and others who have genuine legitimate interest in the technology. For every such person there may be a hundred others whose only interest is "how can I get free pay tv", but that shouldn't prevent us from being able to buy and use equipment for legitimate purposes. Plenty of businesses try to get rich quick by exploiting the tremendous demand for piracy - and they deserve to go down when caught - but the illegal use of particular products has made it increasingly difficult to obtain those products for legal purposes. Honest businesses shouldn't have to go through the worry and expense of defending themselves in court against allegations they're trading in "illegal decoding devices" or aiding and abetting theft. But whenever people get greedy it's others who end up suffering.
Nicely put GW1
Its also power of the people. Its one thing to pay someone to do a job, its another to do a job for free because you love it! Something money can't buyWhen it comes to scammin for freebies....it is human nature to find a way..
Nicely put GW1
Look I also I agree. I'd say I am more interested in the technology than the piracy side of things. It just so happens that the piracy side of things is also part of the hobby. I've played around with the various ways of csing etc and think there's some really amazing software out there but I am also smart enough to realise that it's not worth the risk to make money!
I still enjoy looking for feeds etc and am disappointed that unscrupulous sat installers have installed services so comercial entities can show feeds like the recently terminated feeds of Imparja and Central 7 on D1 for example.
I didn't have enough time to watch what I wanted to watch before all this Gamma craze and now with even more channels I don't think anyone ever will.
Leroy
I thought you lived in that nexk of the woods in FNQ
What ?
I don't think this is the "Madcow" we all remembered?
I dunno, he does say "what?" and "eh?" a lot though
A little birdy told me the investigating for these arrests was done by austar. They purchased a large number of cards over a period of time to capture details and then passed a few on to the cops (who have better things to do with their time) to make some arrests and then it all died.
But as I'm not Dr Doolittle I might be wrong
ktm200
Last edited by ktm200; 22-04-08 at 09:31 PM. Reason: missed an 'n"
Just out of curiosity, just like in say a drug's case if the evidence goes missing or is different from what was described in the charges they won't stick. How do they intend to prove the "evidence" does what they say it does when the defence turns around and says show us what they were doing??
Are they using cheap Asian labor?
Are they in the manufacturing business as well?
by David Richards.
Meanwhile a Victorian detective told ChannelNews that the amount of fake Foxtel decoder cars could be closer to 100,000 than 50,000.
The two men have been charged with making, importing and selling unauthorized decoders contrary to Section 135 of the Copyright Act 1968, and with dealing with the proceeds of crime contrary to Section 400.3 and 400.5 of the Criminal Code Amendment Act 2002.
Police raid Hurstville pirate pay TV outfit
and another one
Read more:Police have raided the Australian arm of an alleged global piracy outfit that they say sold $500 set-top boxes and unlicensed pay TV subscription packages offering 1000 channels for $90 a month.
The police brief alleges that the Hurstville shop, trading as L&D LED Signs, is part of a global piracy operation worth $150 million a year and with 100,000 customers.
Michael Speck, former head of Music Industry Piracy Investigations (MIPI), was contracted to lead the investigation into the operation and says customers would be targeted as offenders or witnesses. He said there was no doubt that "consumers often directly aid and abet these large scale pirate operations".
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The raid – during which one man was arrested - was sparked by TVB Group, a Chinese language content giant that hired a private investigator to dig up dirt on the alleged piracy operation.
But while some of the channels on offer were Asian language, the police brief and forensics report, seen by this website, allege that many of the 1000 channels offered Western content from providers including MTV, Discovery, ESPN, HBO, Fox, CNN and BBC.
The brief says the television programs offered include Heroes, How I Met Your Mother, Superman and Family Guy, while movies include Hangover II, Mrs Popper's Penguins and Pirates of the Carribean.
NSW Police said its Hurstville local area command proactive crime team executed a search warrant at a business on Forrest Road in Hurstville about 10:45am yesterday.
Police said the raid was in relation to the business "allegedly selling cable television decoders and fraudulent access to Chinese television networks".
"They seized a number [of] set-top boxes, other electronics equipment and documents," a police spokeswoman said.
"A 56-year-old Hurstville man was arrested at the premise[s] and taken to Hurstville Police Station. He was released pending further inquiries."
A forensics report compiled by analyst Craig Wright allegedly found that the set-top box was a "standard embedded PC system" that used peer-to-peer video streaming service Vatata to grab content from a server in China.
Macca , I will close this one as there is already one active here on it.
Thanks
Sanity
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