Is your first "here" different to your latter "here" ? Your first "here" indicates that your "here" is your present location which, at a guess, (due to your mention of NAGRA) is not the same "here" as my location which is also "here", but a separate "here" remote from your "here"....I am guessing your "here" is actually there in the United States. This here "here" is the primitive country of Australia, and most satellite TV here is encrypted with the IRDETO flavour which is an extremely tough nut to crack. Some exploit of this encryption is apparent and cards are for sale, but no details of how this compromise of encryption is achieved... the people making the dollars have kept their secret very well.
Essentially, this here "here" has nothing easily cracked, and it seems that your "here" over there has caught up and stopped most theft of TV.
So that's how things are in my version of "here", that is here in Australia which is quite remote from your "here" over there. I hope you find this posting sufficiently educational, it seems that encryption has made things tough in both of our "heres", that is, both this here "here" and your "here" there. .
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