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    What is more likely to fail the HDD Motor or the board itself, as the HDD has valuable information on it that I would like to retrieve.

    I connected it to a machine via external housing, it makes some noises at first this goes on for approx. 1 min then nothing windows does not detect the drive and it doesn't spin up when connected.



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    it really aint worth the trouble
    if you had valued stuff on it, it shoulda been backed up.
    maybe if u plug it in internally to a pc you may recover most of it with
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    valuable information = his porn took months to download ! haha:P
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    as far as i'm aware its more likely to be something internal in the drive itself rather than electronic on the circiut board. There are companys that can recover stuff off of failed drives but last time i checked it was a very expensive exercise.

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    ... I once has a similar problem with an IBM 41GB drive ....

    I got an identical 'working unit' from a swap meet and first changed the drive electronic PCB - nothing - my board was OK ...

    I then carefully opened the drive and removed the 'platter' - that was very hard - so unless you have the tools don't attempt to do it ...

    .. I then swapped this into the 'working drive' - the drive spun-up and I managed to access the drive to be able to read all of my data off the drive ...

    ... this is not recommended unless you don't care what happens - I did not -and wanted to have a go ... the fact that the drive was low capacity it was possible to do this - and be able to 'read' the data which was 'text based' - there were errors but they were recoverable .. the drive will not 'last' in this state for a long time - for me 10 minutes was enough ...

    ... just my experiance - you may not wish to pursue yourself ...

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    The drive is a Toshiba MK4021GAS (2.5" 40GB ATA) it was out of my uncles laptop, all his business docs are on it. I know he should have backed up but he didn't now I'm trying to retrieve the info. I thought at first it might have been the MBR but it sounds like it doesn't want to spin up. So I am going to have a go at swapping the platters out to a working drive which brings me to the next question.

    Anyone have a Toshi MK4021GAS 2.5" 40GB ATA HDD they want to sell for transplant purposes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodstock View Post
    valuable information = his porn took months to download ! haha:P
    lol thats on the 2TB raid array

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    Quote Originally Posted by eyesee View Post
    I then carefully opened the drive and removed the 'platter' - that was very hard - so unless you have the tools don't attempt to do it ...
    What was involved with removing the platter?

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    If it is real important don't open it up your self, I have tried numerous times with no success. But if it is the board you can easily tell most of the time by checking the IC'S out for burns, pin mark blisters and if you see them then go chasing another board

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    Dont even attempt to open the drive yourself. Even a particle of dust will render the drive completely fubar'd

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    From experience after sacrificing a new 80GB 3.5” HDD (years ago), the “transplant” method doesn’t work, without specialised equipment.

    I believe the problem is the alignment of the heads to tracks on the platter, they would differ from drive to drive, hence a low level format is used during manufacture.

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    The fact it spins suggests the motor drive is ok with exception of a speed issue which is unlightly. That leaves a fault in the drive logic or head amplifiers or a crashed head. In the absents of a stethoscope you could try putting your ear to the drive or use a screwdriver pressed on the drive and you ear on the handle. If it powers up and you hear a whir, whir type noise and followed by click click it perhaps indicates the heads are tracking across the drive platters and returning to their home position while trying to read tracks.

    If that occurs followed by silence as the drive spins down to a stop it suggests the heads can’t read the platters. In which case programs like easy recover won’t help you.

    If that’s the case the only option is a data recovery firm who have the facilities to read the platters. Ontrack data recovery is very good but get an estimate of costs as this won’t be cheap. They do charge less for students and for stuff that is not required fast.

    DO NOT OPEN IT.


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    Opening the HDD wont instantly destroy your drive. However, it will definitely destroy your drive over a short amount of time due to the space between the heads and the platters being less than the width of a human hair and dust entering the drive and crashing the heads..

    Here is a link to an excellent whitepaper explaining the many HDD failure scenarios and how to repair it. It will also tell you how to turn you bathroom into a clean room.


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    Quote Originally Posted by valuedcustomer View Post

    I believe the problem is the alignment of the heads to tracks on the platter, they would differ from drive to drive, hence a low level format is used during manufacture.
    Almost correct. The platters actually have information created on them during a Low Level Format at the factory to help with the storage of all data. If a platter is moved out of sequence from the other platters, it is next to impossible to re-align the platters hence why single platter drives were much easier to repair.

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