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    Thumbs down Feed in Tariff to be slashed retrospectively.

    I didn't think they could do this? Contracts signed not worth a crumpet?

    60 cents down to 40 and looks as if some new connections to 20 cents.



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    Always going to happen. And it will get worse.
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    had to happen
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    Can I see a class action happening ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by marty 17 View Post
    Can I see a class action happening ??
    How about this for action.

    We all turn our solar grid systems off until they go back to the agreed payback tariff.

    Ok so you loose a few dollar over a few weeks. Imagine what the power's to be will loose. They will have to build a new power station.

    If we all do this it will solve the problem. No letters to write, just throw a switch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PVbeliever View Post
    How about this for action.

    We all turn our solar grid systems off until they go back to the agreed payback tariff.

    Ok so you loose a few dollar over a few weeks. Imagine what the power's to be will loose. They will have to build a new power station.

    If we all do this it will solve the problem. No letters to write, just throw a switch.
    Count me in!!!! we have to respond to this in such away that the message is clear I for one will never participate in a government sponsered system again if this is implemented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PVbeliever View Post
    How about this for action.

    We all turn our solar grid systems off until they go back to the agreed payback tariff.

    Ok so you loose a few dollar over a few weeks. Imagine what the power's to be will loose. They will have to build a new power station.

    If we all do this it will solve the problem. No letters to write, just throw a switch.
    What a great idea! at night during peak demand they are really going to wish they hadn't screwed those poor PV owners!
    Even better I think anyone who complains or is involved in any type of class action should forfeit the thousands of dollars they were given to install their systems , I mean some poor buggers had to fork out a massive $1200 out of their own pockets to have a $10,000 PV system installed.

    I'll never trust anyone who gives me thousands of dollars worth of anything again , I'll sue the bastards !

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    Quote Originally Posted by PVbeliever View Post
    How about this for action.

    We all turn our solar grid systems off until they go back to the agreed payback tariff.

    Ok so you loose a few dollar over a few weeks. Imagine what the power's to be will loose. They will have to build a new power station.

    If we all do this it will solve the problem. No letters to write, just throw a switch.
    Sorry but is there enough installed solar NSW to have a impact the grid if you all turned them off.
    Last edited by HoochDaTank; 09-06-11 at 11:00 PM. Reason: checking facts
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoochDaTank View Post
    Sorry but is there enough installed solar NSW to have a impact the grid if you all turned them off.
    Every system in NSW could be switched off at once and it won't even register as blip to the grid , no different that it was 18 months ago when 90% of these systems didn't exist or like a normal day with cloud cover.
    Of course there is no solar at night when grid load is even higher during the middle of winter and summer.

    As Gordon said they will probably laugh , their choice is to pay the PV owner 60cents per Kwh or make it themselves for 7cents per Kwh .
    Besides that anyone purposely causing interruption to the grid is liable for prosecution , PV owners sign a contract to supply generated power to the grid , ( that's what the government grant is for ) , it's an obligation if you accept the grant not a choice.
    You also have a service agreement with your energy provider , they are within their rights to disconnect your system from their network if you breach this agreement.
    It's a privilege to be connected to the grid ,not a right.

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    You can sue the Government untill your Great Grandkids are old and grey and it will be still sitting in the IN box at the bottom of the 'Aint Never gunna see the Light of Day' pile.
    This was pretty much a foregone conclusion based on the flawed premise of the whole system and a change of Government.
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    I suppose we can expect other states to follow soon.

    Well that's the end of new installs. A solar system can never pay for itself at 20c per kW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Learjet View Post
    I suppose we can expect other states to follow soon.

    Well that's the end of new installs. A solar system can never pay for itself at 20c per kW.
    None of the other states introduced this totally ridiculous unsustainable 60cent scheme , it's NSW that is finally following the other states not the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey View Post
    None of the other states introduced this totally ridiculous unsustainable 60cent scheme , it's NSW that is finally following the other states not the other way around.
    With all respect, methinks you should check your facts before posting such a misleading obfuscation of the supplied data.


    Which State are you in? Quite a discrepency.


    I may have a blind eye of course, but you do seem to have shut both yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beer4life View Post
    With all respect, methinks you should check your facts before posting such a misleading obfuscation of the supplied data.


    Which State are you in? Quite a discrepency.


    I may have a blind eye of course, but you do seem to have shut both yours.

    Kindest Regards, " The Druid ".


    Beer4life, I am not disputing your posting one bit because this is the advertising used to convince people to go Solar.
    I have said all along this 60 cent buy, 20 cent sell is completely unsustainable because someone somewhere has to meet the difference and it is never the Govt or the companies but the mug at the end of the line.
    Part of this meltdown is based on the Libs opposing a labor deal, good or bad and the mess Labor made selling off everything they could, not that the Libs didnt have similar ideas to do a sell off too but now the Libs are in Power its time to weild the Axe as they said they would when elected.
    The trouble is now it looks like the axe might just have a bigger blade and take more than was expected.
    Beware other States may decide to follow suit if it looks like a good idea.
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    Sorry Gordon if you misunderstood my swipe at "Joey", certainly was not aimed at you. All States under various guises, are equally responsible for this Fiasco.
    It would seem there are those that want to lay the blame elsewhere while pushing their own wheelbarrow.
    My tuppence worth is that it was an ill conceived and politically motivated program adopted by all States and Territories without recognition of the Financial Burdens imposed on the proletariat.
    AND as pointed out, it became an encumbrance on those least able to support it, those in rental properties that have had exorbitant increases in their Electricity charges to support the scheme.


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    Quote Originally Posted by beer4life View Post
    With all respect, methinks you should check your facts before posting such a misleading obfuscation of the supplied data.


    Which State are you in? Quite a discrepency.


    I may have a blind eye of course, but you do seem to have shut both yours.

    Kindest Regards, " The Druid ".


    You have the information right in front of you and you say I have my eyes closed ! you have yourself replied with a misleading obfuscation that you don't appear to understand. , I suggest you research the difference between Gross and Net feed in tariffs and the prices offered everywhere else before you jump on factual information.

    As I said based on facts NSW is the ONLY state that offered the 60cents GROSS tariff with a system size of up to 10KW, every single KW the customer makes they are paid 60cents , Absolutely unsustainable!!
    At a 20cent Gross tariff NSW will get a return very close to that of other states when the difference between Gross and Net are calculated.


    The next closest is Vic with a 60cent NET tariff which is a shit load different to Gross , it means in Vic you only get paid for the excess you make after your usage but you are only allowed a more realistic 5KW system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey View Post
    You have the information right in front of you and you say I have my eyes closed ! you have yourself replied with a misleading obfuscation that you don't appear to understand. , I suggest you research the difference between Gross and Net feed in tariffs and the prices offered everywhere else before you jump on factual information.

    As I said based on facts NSW is the ONLY state that offered the 60cents GROSS tariff with a system size of up to 10KW, every single KW the customer makes they are paid 60cents , Absolutely unsustainable!!
    At a 20cent Gross tariff NSW will get a return very close to that of other states when the difference between Gross and Net are calculated.


    The next closest is Vic with a 60cent NET tariff which is a shit load different to Gross , it means in Vic you only get paid for the excess you make after your usage but you are only allowed a more realistic 5KW system.

    Yep , the majority of people have no idea of the difference between gross and net tariffs and capped output size. There is a very big difference between NSW and Vic's schemes but people see 60 cents and think they are exactly the same.

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    roughly, how many years was it going to take to pay for itself at the current rate?

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    Depending on size of system and what state really

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