Foxtel changes affecting third party receivers

[porkop]

I still have most of the listed channels below, didnt actually check them all but Fox8, natgeo adv+2, natGeo+2, CNBC, Arena, Comedy, CeeBees all still there. (ignoring HD). server is DM7020 Oscam 4800. Blue in the 7020

the client I checked out is a Relook 200s with CCcam 2.12 using the N: line to the oscam server. Pli Jade on both Server and Client.

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The changes have been made to 4 transponders as of now (2 transponders per day......1 HD and 1SD transponder per day):

12011H:
BBC Know HD
Fox Sports 1HD
Movie One HD
Showcase HD
Showtime HD

12052H:
Disc World HD
ESPN HD
ESPN2 HD
Fox Sports 2HD
Fox8 HD
Time Shift One Demand HD

12518H:
13TH Street +2
BBC CBeebies
CNBC
EXPO
Nat Geo +2
NGAdventure+2
Sky Racing Active
Sky Racing1
Sky Racing2
SkyRacingWorld
SPEED

12558H:
Arena
Comedy
Fox Classics
Fox8
Lifestyle
Movie One
Showcase
Showtime
TV1
UKTV
W


Also if you look harder you'll notice that the ECM times for the affected channels are responding in 400-450ms times most of the time rather than around 240ms. The cards are working harder on something.... hint hint.

If you have a working Aus* and Foxy card you might want to compare the current DCW's and look at the difference. Things are a little easier when you have simulcryption.

[Ararat]

got blue card and can see SPEED, NG+2
couldn't yesterday

I've got an orange, and same here.

And a whole bunch of channels that i KNOW weren't working yesterday are working again today. None of the HD's have been fixed though...

[nfnovice]

whoa ..my black channels are back ...they prolly caught us logging and undid the change ?

EDIT : except HD not there .. didnt I say I cant log HD ...doo doo doo doo (twilight zone music)

[satdancer]

weird it looks like its working again

Yep, just checked again and Fox has reversed the change back to the way it was on the two SD transponders 12518H and 12558H, but the two HD transponders 12011H and 12052H are still affected.

Looks to me like they discovered a bug in their change this afternoon that was affecting non-IQHD boxes so it was reversed for the SD channels. That's why more transponders weren't changed today.

[satdancer]

I still have most of the listed channels below, didnt actually check them all but Fox8, natgeo adv+2, natGeo+2, CNBC, Arena, Comedy, CeeBees all still there. (ignoring HD). server is DM7020 Oscam 4800. Blue in the 7020

That list I posted yesterday of 4 transponders is no longer relevant. As of this afternoon the channels on 12518H and 12558H are back to the way they were (for now).
Maybe more HD transponders may switch over in the short term.

[satbeginner]

next question would be,which fboxes were effected.maybe the little shitey ds250 boxes.upgrade might be due?

[nightsearch59]

My bluey on DM500c with PLi Jade running oscam 0.99.4 svn#3100 has pictures back on the following channels.

13th Street +2
Arena
BBC Cbeebies
CNBC
Comedy
Expo
Fox Classics
Fox8
LifeStyle
Movie One
Nat Geo +2
NGAdventure +2
Showcase
Showtime
Sky Racing 1
Speed
TV1
UKTV
W

[Smacca]

SD also back on my bluey. I kind of feel lucky that we've been given a heads-up with what's to come. Time to prepare!

[oyama]

all channels that were blacked out have returned
this could be a teaser , wait for monday lol

[Ararat]

SD also back on my bluey. I kind of feel lucky that we've been given a heads-up with what's to come. Time to prepare!

But those of us with HD are still out in the cold

Still, better than nothing I guess.

[Ararat]

all channels that were blacked out have returned
this could be a teaser , wait for monday lol

You got my hopes up. I just checked, and nope, HD is still out.

[nfnovice]

on oscam 3073 .. looks like an update required to get the "loghistorysize =0" working

ok moved to oscam version 5333
I have the above paramter in .. but sill getting 10k roll over.
tried loghistorysize =1000000 ..same result. hmmmm
doh .. there it is maxlogsize = 0
that did the trick

cwlogdir = /media/cf/oscam/logs/cw still working

[nfnovice]

I kind of feel lucky that we've been given a heads-up with what's to come. Time to prepare!

yeah .. but the only options seem to be dust off provider stb or tin foil hat ?

[Smacca]

yeah .. but the only options seem to be dust off provider stb or tin foil hat ?

...or ring ya mate in Charleville and split an Autsar sub. I never thought I'd see the day where that would be the better (immediate) option.

[RB0135]

next question would be,which fboxes were effected.maybe the little shitey ds250 boxes.upgrade might be due?

As mentioned before, my DS250 didnt have an issue with the channels after it got a software update and I did mentioned about these "shitey" boxes might need to be upgraded for what ever changes were happening..

Are all DS250's the same? mmmm....

Is it only something to do with HD and they are/were only testing with SD

[ian.d]

...or ring ya mate in Charleville and split an Autsar sub. I never thought I'd see the day where that would be the better (immediate) option.

I hope that CS reference was intended in jest! Not meaning to be anal, but if they are monitoring forums such as this to gauge the fallout of their changes then we don't need to give them any excuses to thank themselves for ratcheting up the crypto, even if they weren't meant as serious intentions.

[nfnovice]

I hope that CS reference was intended in jest! Not meaning to be anal, but if they are monitoring forums such as this to gauge the fallout of their changes then we don't need to give them any excuses to thank themselves for ratcheting up the crypto, even if they weren't meant as serious intentions.

I didnt see a CS reference there .. sub splitting aint CS

[Ararat]

I didnt see a CS reference there .. sub splitting aint CS

...the lawyers may disagree...

[viewer]

And if both mobs merge, as is their intent, then................good night.

[satdancer]

Edit, got the length the wrong way, the new ecms are 8 bytes longer

It's actually 6 bytes shorter!

Old format:
114 byte ECM packet plus 25 byte header ( 89 byte payload sent to card)

Old ECM:
80 70 6F 00 00 01 11 89 03 44 AA FF FF AA 55 15
21 80 01 00 01 01 00 42 59 7E 0A 19 24 42 44 FE
69 44 F4 00 00 90 4B C0 02 9B 29 71 45 29 11 FF
81 78 9A 45 E6 02 91 D5 10 0D 9B 14 A3 C0 D5 7C
2F FE 24 14 D3 D2 FB CF AE 65 66 D9 8F 8A B6 54
89 36 7C 4B 06 94 F1 4C 4D 69 0F 8C A2 EF 10 A2
D8 7A 45 2A 36 B6 05 EB F7 D4 3E 8A 87 A4 84 82
B8 6A
Red: Header
Green: Payload


New ECM format:
108 byte ECM packet but with extended 31 byte header (only 77 byte payload sent to card)

80 70 69 00 00 01 17 89 03 43 64 FF FF AA 55 15
21 80 01 00 01 01 01 01 80 03 05 21 02 AE 4D 7E
0A 5E 1B 88 53 5A 52 93 78 00 00 90 3F C0 02 3A
DB 23 0E C9 AD EE 65 AB 1E 4E 19 E6 75 43 FC 08
06 9A 9F 37 A7 42 C0 B7 14 FF 9B B0 B0 98 C8 9E
18 27 2B 6D 4A E1 5E 18 12 FF DD F4 9C BB FA 70
58 CC BE 5E C3 FF 00 05 62 F1 5C 08

Red: Old Header bytes
Blue: New ECM format header extension 6 bytes
Green: Payload

So it's safe to say that what we have here is some new data saving ECM packet for which the Videoguard developers at Oscam will need to accomodate and figure out. Back in June 2008 the ECM packet size was reduced and now it looks like they're trying to compress it even more.