Vast PVR Remote and S/ware

[mtv]

MTV, I'll do that and maybe you could check it out with him as well @ accessantennas( satellitetvwa@yahoo.com)

I reckon UEC should be asking him for an explanation.

[OSIRUS]

Yep..... If A A say there will be no PVR upgrade kit for the existing Vast DSD4121 STB

I have got to ask where did they get their information.....

& UEC may be asking why they are spreading miss-information.... (I think)

or have A A been miss-quoted some how ?

We are only trying to give you the correct information,

The only thing we don't know is when the OTA will be available,

& there will be no need for the sale of the PVR kit with New remote until then......

but The Altech UEC Lane Cove West Service Centre in NSW are offering to do it for you, now.

[mtv]

Yep..... If A A say there will be no PVR upgrade kit for the existing Vast DSD4121 STB

I have got to ask where did they get their information.....

& UEC will be asking why they are spreading miss-information.... (I think)

or have A A been miss-quoted some how ?

We are only trying to give you the correct information,

I hope AA are not saying UEC will not provide the PVR upgrade, just so they con people into buying a new PVR-enabled 'package'.

Agreed, we just want everyone to have factual information and both OSIRUS and myself have confirmation directly from senior UEC management that the PVR Upgrade will definitely be available and the fact UEC are offering the upgrade NOW (with the OTA upgrade to follow) is about as reliable information as you can get.

[Tiny]

I just got a PM from someone, I guess they want to remain anonymous or they would have posted it out here?

Can't see any reason to keep it to myself.

"Tiny,

The reason for the delay is that the UEC 4121 has not received its MHEG certification. Unless it can be certified then there will be no over the air update to the existing user base.

In addition if the MHEG compliance does not occur all new STB with the PVR option will be rolled back to the existing UEC build."

Hmmmm how interesting?

The second part I find very hard to believe.

[admin]

I reckon UEC should be asking him for an explanation.

If I had of known it was from that peanut I would have dismissed it immediately.

He was banned from here for a number of reasons , spamming, fighting with other members, multiple accounts promoting his products, the list goes on.

Sorry toyboy , but he is far from a reliable source. I wouldnt put it past him to put out information to his customers that gains him extra sales.

[mtv]

I just got a PM from someone, I guess they want to remain anonymous or they would have posted it out here?

Can't see any reason to keep it to myself.

"Tiny,

The reason for the delay is that the UEC 4121 has not received its MHEG certification. Unless it can be certified then there will be no over the air update to the existing user base.

In addition if the MHEG compliance does not occur all new STB with the PVR option will be rolled back to the existing UEC build."

Hmmmm how interesting?

The second part I find very hard to believe.

I find it very hard to believe that UEC would have released the new PVR package for sale, if it not already been certified by Optus.

If they did that and Optus found out, I have no doubt Optus would block those boxes and penalise UEC for the breach.

I just can't see UEC risking that, so to me, that claim is BS.

[toyboy11]

Sorry toyboy , but he is far from a reliable source. I wouldnt put it past him to put out information to his customers that gains him extra sales.

Well iv'e sent him another email asking him to clarify

[mtv]

Well iv'e sent him another email asking him to clarify

You might also ask him if he knows anything about this too.

[toyboy11]

This is a copy of his email to me.


UEC have just announced they will not be releasing the remotes
any more and releasing the software publicly, and that customers
will need to purchase a new UEC with updated software, which comes
with the new remote.

02 9425 5777

that is there phone number if you want to call up and complain



Kind Regards Hal McDonald


Access Antennas & Satellites

[toyboy11]

You might also ask him if he knows anything about this too.

If he's doing anything unlawfully the may the full force of the law rain down on him.

[admin]

Maybe they are not releasing anything to him if he is guilty of fraudulent activations ?

[Tiny]

I find it very hard to believe that UEC would have released the new PVR package for sale, if it not already been certified by Optus.

If they did that and Optus found out, I have no doubt Optus would block those boxes and penalise UEC for the breach.

I just can't see UEC risking that, so to me, that claim is BS.

Yep, I agree with you, just doesn't sound right.
I asked the member that PM me to go public with his information, however he says, & I'll quote him again:

Tiny,

Cant post to general forum as I am too close to the action.

For the non believers consider the following:

1) If you check the certification documents (released in April and June)all STB must be independantly tested for compliance at the MHEG middleware layer in addition to the Irdeto and Optus certification.

2)The UEC STB has passed the Irdeto DVT but not the MHEG. Hence not MHEG new application for regional viewers.

3) Consider this, if the STB was compliant why wound not optus place the build on the stack and do an over the download?

4) Optus has not interest in whether a STB is PVR or not. They make their money with transponder capacity sales. Therefore whether there 1 STB or a million they still will make money.

5) The remote and licence for the pvr would a gold mind pre xmas.

Not sure what any of this really means?

BTW this member, to eliminate some guessing who it might be, has only 4 posts, all in VAST forum, zero thanks, thanked zero times & a zero rep rating.
Maybe just someone who wants to throw a spanner in the works
If he wants to say anymore he will have to come out his closet, I don't want to be blamed for spreading anything misleading.
I can get myself into trouble easy enough, I don't need help

[OSIRUS]

Thanks Tiny,

I guess we will have to wait & see what happens........

I know UEC has put a lot of time (& money) in developing & testing this PVR kit for the DSD4121 STB

If UEC are having problems making it MHEG compliant, surely they will solve the problem, as they should have known the Requirements before they started the project,

& it would be a big loss for them if it did not succeed now, & especially now they have begun selling The NEW PVR Ready DSD4121PVR Model to the Public

cheers

[mtv]

It would be a reasonable argument, if it were not compliant, even the original decoder would not have been accepted.

Optus make a lot of money from testing and certifying any minute change to firmware.. around $20k for each change, plus another $20k annual fee..... this is for each model/variant.

This is starting to go OT, but here's the certification requirements... and fee structure.

[viewer]

No speculation here will alter anything. We just need to await a UEC announcement.

[Tiny]

No speculation here will alter anything. We just need to await a UEC announcement.

Absolutely, BTW noticed forum member UECTECH was browsing this afternoon, bet he is ROFL at all the crap that's coming out.

He is not the one that PM me, just thought I'd clarify that.

We should all be thankful to MTV & OSIRUS for for making the effort to contact people at UEC & provide at least some hope to us all.

As for the f******* from AA that started this all with his email to toyboy11, if he's the fraudster, I hope they fry him.

[gordon_s1942]

I am a retailer who has a business selling to both residential and travelers and everything I sell I keep records of for warranty purposes obviously so when I see an oppotunity appear to perhaps 'assist' both the traveler and remote dweller who just dont fit the critera, I use some of my 'records' to achieve this.
400 would not be a difficult number to reach perhaps based on maybe as low as 50 'Origonals' but I think 400 maybe an 'Iceberg' with a much much larger underwater base than that.
Of course the question is how did it all go 'Pear Shape' as claimed?
Could this be a bit like the Days Past when people were unknowingly sold illicit Smart Cards that crashed and when they rang the 'wrong' company to reactivate them, the smoke billowed forth.........otherwise, how would 'They' know such an 'activerty occured?
Isnt it amazing how devious the human mind can be when it is applied to a problem ??
I am certainly not the brightest candle on the cake but if I can nut this out, need I say more??

[toyboy11]

Iv'e forward on his email to me to UEC and asked them if the information there in is correct or not correct. hopefully this should bring this to a head, that's if they will answer me of course!

[mtv]

Iv'e forward on his email to me to UEC and asked them if the information there in is correct or not correct. hopefully this should bring this to a head, that's if they will answer me of course!

The information in the email to you has already been determined to be false/incorrect by UEC, as advised to both OSIRUS and myself.

I posted the official written reply I received, so I don't see the point of you asking the question of them again.

Given the fact both OSIRUS and myself had direct contact with senior project management at UEC, obtaining that information which we passed on is directly 'from the horses mouth' so to speak.

I would not expect you to receive information to the contrary from UEC.

[toyboy11]

I have received an answer to my email from UEC and the information is incorrect
Sorry mtv if iv'e overlooked your answer, i needed to get it in writing for my own benefit. As stated they will be doing an OTA update in the new year and i would need to purchase a new remote or alternately send my box to them and they will do it for the cost of $69.00.

So this should bring an end to this post,Toyboy