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    Default Cel Card?

    I know of someone trying to sell a blank gamma with 1.4 os to a seller was told no good anymore as they now use a cel card, can anyone explain to me what a cel card is?



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    Quote Originally Posted by 3xdragon View Post
    I know of someone trying to sell a blank gamma with 1.4 os to a seller was told no good anymore as they now use a cel card, can anyone explain to me what a cel card is?
    Sellers card, is what they mean
    not Cel card

    thats what i think anyways

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    i questioned that too but it was in a text and was "cel"

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    Quote : Whities from ebay are gamma and are used for home brew codes
    We use cel cards which are different

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3xdragon View Post
    Quote : Whities from ebay are gamma and are used for home brew codes
    We use cel cards which are different
    As per mobile1 post what ever your sellers is telling you its a Sellers card !

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    thanks for that

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    sounds like these Sellers are a dishonest bunch lol

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    Can anyone tell me what would be causing a gamma card to not work locking. It just posts "error". Has anyone else had similar problems - has anyone got a solution. Can you either post or PM me the workaround. Cheers.

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    There is no work around.
    Cards that 'won't lock' are old public gammas & there is no fix for it as far as I am aware.
    Reality is an invention of my imagination.
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    Do any gammas lock, what makes them different to the others.

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    Whether or not a sellers card is based on the same wafer card as the old public gamma is a matter of debate. Maybe, maybe not. One thing is certain. The operating system on the pair are different & are not compatible with each other.

    It would appear that sellers cards will 'Lock' & public gamma will not.

    So you can be sure at least that the OS makes them different. Whether or not the card is the same is unknown.
    Reality is an invention of my imagination.
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    Lets hope we can find out soon. These seem the same don't they.

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    Why is it then that they are a hard to track down item if there is not something special about the public gamma. And why are they fetching the prices they are, I feel it is just that it is not common knowledge yet. People have to be using these items for something if they are paying these prices. Hopefully soon we will know. An item does not just run out of stock for no reason.

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    Who is paying high prices?
    Europeans I think, dont think many buyers in Australia.
    On the topic os sellers & public - Why cant the OS be removed and new seller OS be installed? Is it because the card cant be locked?

    I also notice the Card ATR of a sellers is different to Public Gamma.
    So I figured the card wont lock with GammaV3.5 & panda loader wont work because it doesnt respond to the Cards ATR.
    Next step was, try to change ATR, How? No idea.
    I used GammaV3.5 and loaded "Frog.gam" file which was in the EMK software package (.rar file)
    Sent to card and then Reset the card and ATR changed to same as seller card except the last 8 digits. I never thought the gamma file could change the cards ATR but it did.
    This makes me feel there is another gamma file that sellers used prior to Whitey V2. Maybe the ATR will change and then respond to these loader tools.
    I have been trying many things, its a wonder I havent killed the gamma card, but like many, I have been stuck with a useless plastic card since september 07 so whether a dumb idea or not I have been trying.
    I have been told many times the public card is a dead duck, but I am too stubborn to just accept that.

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    Its all fun shlocker. Be stubborn and keep up the good work.

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    if anyone can tell me how to overcome an error "no ATR" from a dead viper card I'd be a happy camper

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    Quote Originally Posted by macca View Post
    if anyone can tell me how to overcome an error "no ATR" from a dead viper card I'd be a happy camper
    where do you get the vipoer cards from Oz or elsewhere??

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    yea i would like to know where they are coming from ?? or are they a custom
    printed card ??

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    custom printed sellers card, I don't think they're available ATM

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    i had a Viper with no "ATR"tried to clean card many times no success untill i wiped card on my t shirt then bingo it cleaned and loaded no probs ..

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