8 kW split

**TVguy** · 14-01-12, 09:54 AM

G'day,

I need to replace a 10 year old split system and have a choice between a Mitubishi MSZ-GE80VA and an LG R28AWN-11 for the same price. I am a big Mitsubishi fan but wonder if anyone has any feedback on the LG system. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Cheers

**Fernbay** · 14-01-12, 10:05 AM

L.G. -- Lucky it Goes

I wouldn't buy an LG, even if it was the last thing left in the shop in the middle of a summer heatwave.

**TVguy** · 14-01-12, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Fernbay

L.G. -- Lucky it Goes

I wouldn't by an LG, even if it was the last thing left in the shop in the middle of a summer heatwave.

Thanks Fernbay,

I am well aware of the quality issues with older LG aircons, but I actually know the head of aircon at LG and he assures me the quality has improved. I have my own bias with regard to many CE products having been an authorised centre for many brands. When all you see is faulty product from the same manufacturer you subconsciously think that everthing they produce is crap. Is your opinion based on stats or heresay for the current product.

Regards

**johnwinger** · 14-01-12, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by Fernbay

L.G. -- Lucky it Goes

I wouldn't by an LG, even if it was the last thing left in the shop in the middle of a summer heatwave.

Even over a Teco? or what was that Dimmey's brand

What gets me is people buy crap and then pay a quality installer to install it for them.

**Fernbay** · 14-01-12, 10:35 AM

It's based on having work in authorised LG service centers .
You should see the over engineering of the computer control boards that live in the outdoor units. 10 times more complex than required and prone to failure.

(Some of their vacuum cleaners also have similar overly complex computer control boards that makes repair unviable due to the cost of parts, and at the end of the day, it's only a god damm vacumm cleaner!!)

My advice as a licensed air cond guy (and also a TV tech) is don't do it.
Sounds like you have already made up your mind though. In that case, do yourself a favor and get hold of you mate and get him to snaffle you a spare outdoor unit control board to put aside, so that when it fails at least you won't have to deal with the inevitable NLA problem.

**TVguy** · 14-01-12, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Fernbay

It's based on having work in authorised LG service centers .

(Some of their vacuum cleaners also have similar overly complex computer control boards that makes repair unviable due to the cost of parts, and at the end of the day, it's only a god damm vacumm cleaner!!)

Sounds like you have already made up your mind though.

I was an LG ASC and did experience the fun of their dodgy vacuum cleaners, and I am well aware of the NLA issue. I have made up my mind and will get the Mitsubishi. Ten and a half years with no problems on the old unit. BTW I agree with the point about over engineering of control PCBs; I was helping a mate with an old Carrier split the other day and all it had was a start cap and reversing valve solenoid (very simple).

Cheers

**johnwinger** · 14-01-12, 11:43 AM

Compare their backup service and warranty callouts. Mitsu A/C have flooded the market and everyone tends to want them.

Go with the Mitsu over the LG. The Mitsu units sit on the lower tiar down from Daikin units and the LG would be allot further down.

Surely you would be able to get the LG much cheaper than the Mitsu through your mate at LG?

**TVguy** · 14-01-12, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by johnwinger

Surely you would be able to get the LG much cheaper than the Mitsu through your mate at LG?

Unfortunately no, I have contacts at both companies and can get the Mitsubishi for $1790 delivered and the LG for $1760. For $30 dollars difference the Mitsubishi wins.

Cheers

**Guiseppe** · 14-01-12, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by TVguy

Unfortunately no, I have contacts at both companies and can get the Mitsubishi for $1790 delivered and the LG for $1760. For $30 dollars difference the Mitsubishi wins.

Cheers

How much for the install? Or are you doing it yourself?

**mtv** · 14-01-12, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by TVguy

Unfortunately no, I have contacts at both companies and can get the Mitsubishi for $1790 delivered and the LG for $1760. For $30 dollars difference the Mitsubishi wins.

I'm surprised you even needed to ask with that price difference and your experience with LG products in general.

Regardless of cost between thw two, I'd also go with the Mitsubishi.

**johnwinger** · 14-01-12, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by TVguy

Unfortunately no, I have contacts at both companies and can get the Mitsubishi for $1790 delivered and the LG for $1760. For $30 dollars difference the Mitsubishi wins.

Cheers

I would of expected a bigger price difference, they are underselling the Mitsu.

**Joey** · 14-01-12, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by TVguy

Unfortunately no, I have contacts at both companies and can get the Mitsubishi for $1790 delivered and the LG for $1760. For $30 dollars difference the Mitsubishi wins.

Cheers

That's an awesome price on the Mitsubishi! , Actually spoke to a commercial aircon guy recently about domestic systems , he said he will only install Mitsubishi for friends and family , if they want anything else he wont touch it.

**Tradesman** · 16-01-12, 02:31 PM

I thought Teco and Mitsubishi were one and the same? an old teco unit had Mitsubishi guts in it.
our building at work has 10x Mitsubishi splits , all work well even on those super hot days.

re- the LG vacuum cleaner , the PCB failed in mine so i bypassed it and just use the foot power switch to turn it on/off , at full speed.

**johnwinger** · 16-01-12, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Tradesman

I thought Teco and Mitsubishi were one and the same? an old teco unit had Mitsubishi guts in it.
our building at work has 10x Mitsubishi splits , all work well even on those super hot days.

re- the LG vacuum cleaner , the PCB failed in mine so i bypassed it and just use the foot power switch to turn it on/off , at full speed.

Mitsu A/C and Teco A/c units are not on the same page but everyone will see each brand differently. Everyone wants a Mitsu uni and majority of people have them, they have flooded the market. Ask someone why they want a Mitsu and they usually just answer because they are good, ask them why? Installing units that everyone can get and has is not good for an A/C installer.

Allot of the time when an A/C unit fails or does not work efficiently its usally down to the installtion or the unit was undersized to begin with. Like anything it may fail and need to be replaced. I have seen some of the worst installations and people have paid for these, as in any industry there is the good and the bad.

**admin** · 17-01-12, 02:00 PM

I have a Daikin in my home and also had one in my last home.They have never missed a beat.

A mate had a Fujitsu in his last house that made annoying clicking noises.

In regards to my current Daikin, I had a choice of the daikin and mitsubishi. The daikin was was about $2-300 more, I was happy to pay it based on previous performnce and reliability. A mate went with mitusbishi and is happy with it.

**Godzilla** · 19-01-12, 02:06 PM

I have a Daikin split inverter now for a few years, never let me down, paid $7 or $800 for the back to back install in the middle of Christmas during a heat wave.

A few members here recommended this brand to me and im very happy with it.

My Ducted gas heating system failed last year and we used the unit in heat mode all winter, house was warmer and our electricity bill increase was less than the usual gas bill increase in winter.

Buggered if im fixing my gas heating now.

Summer the house is like a fridge.

**TVguy** · 19-01-12, 07:47 PM

Took delivery of the Mitsubishi today

. Just have to organise my fridgy mate, happy days.

**freakee1** · 19-01-12, 09:58 PM

I have helped a friend install a few split A/C's and he only likes to install 3 brands - Mitsubishi, Daikin & Fujitsu

Reasons - they have spare parts, and as he says, go there only once, everyone is happy

good choice TVGuy

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**johnwinger** · 25-01-12, 11:20 AM

Just spoke with an LG service agent and he said that LG has become allot better than what they used to be. He cannot purchase LG units through LG due to conflict of interest with other LG installers. He installs Daikin and said their quality has dropped and they are now made in Thailand. I asked him what units he would install in his own home and he said LG, very interesting.

He also said that Mitsu units have also improved.

**admin** · 25-01-12, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by johnwinger

He installs Daikin and said their quality has dropped and they are now made in Thailand.

My current Daikin 8kw that is heading towards 6 years old is made in Thailand (checked the sticker) and I am sure the one in my previous house was also made there.

Without being rude (

), if he is an installer and thinks LG are better than Daikin then he is talking out his arse or winding you up. Or aint all there